• xor@infosec.pub
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    8 months ago

    in japan, assassination is a legitimate form of political protest

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      8 months ago

      Over what time scale? Incremental change is also change, and don’t require violence. You might not have noticed the beneficial change because it’s happened over so long and society has been managed through the change.

      The other side to that question is - how frequently does violence achieve beneficial change? As opposed to violence which doesn’t effect change at all, or changes things for the worse?

      Terrorism, for instance?

      • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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        8 months ago

        Ok. Small and incremental changes. Our government has slowly gotten more corrupt and become more of an oligarchy over the past 60 years. Our government stopped doing what was best for most Americans a long time ago. The blackwater scandal during the Nixon Era would barely be a blip today. Insurance companies have gotten Healthcare to sky rocket. No one can afford a house because corporations have been allowed to buy them all up. Minimum wage has fallen way behind, there’s no ceiling for how many hundreds of millions the wealthy can make each year and still pay a lower tax rate than someone making $70k. People are in more debt than ever and fewer people are starting families because you can’t afford it. Our two party system bullies out any third party so political shifts never change. Gerrymandering is outrageous in many states in order to suppress voters. Anything that is generally passed that would benefit most Americans has its legs cut out from underneath it with stipulations or other earmarked junk. Corporations breaking laws get a slap on the wrist. I mean hell, Bayer knowingly infected hundreds of people with HIV back when it was a death sentence because they didn’t want to take the loss on discarding their tainted product. We have at least one Supreme Court Justice who has been caught dead to rights accepting gifts, and not a thing happens to him.

        So yeah. There’s have been small changes.

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      8 months ago

      Yagami Tetsuya assassinated Abe Shinzo, former PM of Japan, while he was drumming up support for a candidate from his party. The motive was his mother draining the family savings account to donate to a Christian cult known as the Unification Church, aka Moonies. He actually wanted to kill the Moonie leadership but deemed it unrealistic, so he went after Abe who had ties to the cult. After the assassination, it came out that a lot of Japanese leadership had ties to the cult and there was a bit of a witch-hunt.

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        8 months ago

        Calling the Moonies Christian is… Debatable.

        The founder got excommunicated by the Presbyterians.

        Really good Behind the Bastards episodes on them btw.

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          8 months ago

          The way you used italics, I gotta ask, is excommunication coming from the Presbyterians unusual compared to other Christian groups?

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            I was raised protestant, but not presbyterian. Still, I haven’t heard a lot of excommunication coming from any protestant group. That is mostly a Catholic thing I think, with some of that happening with maybe Puritans (I’m not that familiar with all of them) back around Salem Witch Trial days.

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              Protestants excommunicate each other all the time. Only some denominations practice open communion. Many Baptist churches are worse than the Catholics about it. The different denominations are often not in communion with each other for some stupid reason. They do it in different ways, mind you, with a focus on elder councils or something.

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      Guy’s mother joined a cult and ended up donating the family’s entire savings, leaving them in poverty. He’s supper pissed about the conditions they live in and eventually assassinates the former PM who was apparently involved with said cult somehow. Now it seems the government is earnestly considering the conditions which created such despair in the man.

      I’m just working off memory, but that’s the basics of it I think.

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        8 months ago

        I mean, killing a member of the government will definitely get the government’s attention.

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      It’s unfortunate but in a lot of cases it’s the only thing that will work. Peaceful protest can help when protesting against a group that could be viewed as rational, if not, most people won’t just lie down if the conditions they are protesting don’t improve, and more drastic action becomes one of the few options left.

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      8 months ago

      Y’all up in here bitchin like you weren’t just giggling bout that guillotining billionaires meme

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        8 months ago

        The thing that makes gallows humour gallows humour and not violence is the humour part. There is a huge difference between joking about guillotines and actually using them