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    7 months ago

    A TV show centered around superheroes was a novel concept in 2006. In a post-Marvel vs DC world, not so much.

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    7 months ago

    Plot suffered from characters becoming too powerful without limit, getting painted into corners, and rules of their own universe being broken for dumb plot points at the last second. If they don’t put much better constraints into place, it’ll just suck.

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      7 months ago

      I heard Season 2 was supposed to be a whole new cast and the network said no. So they ended up with over powered characters

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        That’s what I remember, it was supposed to be an anthology season, each one new stories of people gaining powers and leaning to use them. Then “save the cheerleader save the world” was so damn popular the exec’s wouldn’t let the characters go

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        7 months ago

        Oh, is that what happened to it? I remembered the first season being great and then just not liking what came after. That explains a lot.

        Still, I’d rather not have it be resurrected. I’m sure there’s more ideas floating around that can be made.

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    That first season was lucky beyond belief and still barely worked sometimes. Everything since then… kinda sucked.

    The writer’s strike takes the blame for a hot mess of bad ideas they were gonna do anyway.

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      Honestly, the lesson of this show was - do one good season. Tell a complete story in two dozen hour-long chunks. Don’t dangle a satisfying conclusion for ten years.

      Having things happen should not be novel. It should not be tied to endless dragging soap-opera formula, or edgelord anyone-can-die chaos. You can be melodramatic! You can kill off characters! But those should not be primary goals. No more than pleading “one more season!,” which is guaranteed to fail eventually, having resolved approximately nothing.

      Avoiding that shaggy-dog storytelling is what made Heroes a major event. It wasn’t the first or most important show with its aspirations. The Sopranos was in full swing and Breaking Bad was not far-off. And until Twin Peaks lanced the whole genre, prime-time soap operas like Dallas had the budget and scope we’d later celebrate in those shows. People liked seeing characters with stakes that weren’t guaranteed to orbit the status quo.

      But the idiot suits only heard ‘people like these characters, let’s milk this fucker dry.’ And then the writer’s strike took the blame. That’s the kindest thing that ever happened to this show’s legacy. An irreverent outlier took off and its corporate masters drowned it in money. Do you understand how that always goes? You get some Soul Society garbage instead of whatever made things interesting. Heroes season two is when they went to Namek.

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    7 months ago

    Is this the one with the cop who literally smells crime?

    Ed: I’m wrong, he was a mind reader which is a bit less hokey

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      You’re thinking of Always Sunny. “And then he smells crime again, he’s out busting heads. Then he’s back to the lab for some more full penetration. Smells crime. Back to the lab, full penetration. Crime. Penetration. Crime. Full penetration. Crime. Penetration. And this goes on and on and back and forth for 90 or so minutes until the movie just sort of ends.”

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    7 months ago

    I learned what “yata” in Japanese meant because of this show. Also, I remember NISSAN VERSA product placement, but everything else about this show got sucked out of my head like the Zachary Quinto character got to me.