I’m 4 of the things on the bottom track.
We need to get Joe Biden elected then make his life hell until he stops funding Israel.
Hell yeah.
Maybe we can get him to stop funding Israel before that, even. But first and foremost, fascism must be stopped, for the same reason that the Western Allies sided with the Soviet Union in WW2. We may despise each other, but there is a worse foe afoot.
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Every two years, for decades, you people drag this canard out.
Maybe you should try paying attention more often than every two years.
And yet, we just keep getting more fascist.
Wow, thank you for informing me we’re more fascist now than we were in the 80s, or the 50s, or the 10s.
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I was being charitable, I know you employ it even more often than that.
Oh, how terrible, that we try to fight against fascism more often than that.
removed, you’re the one freaking out about how we teetering at the edge of concentration camps and suspended elections.
We are in danger of fascism. That’s not the same as being more fascist currently. That’s the point of fascism - overthrow of democratic institutions. Do you think a democratic nation in danger of monarchy is more monarchist than ever before? Is that how you think things work? Fucking lmao.
But of course, what do you know about fascism? You couldn’t identify it if it put you in a uniform and a rally, shouting slogans worshiping the Great Leader, so long as it was painted red.
Thanks for not denying that we’re on the edge, btw, really shows how little you care about the destruction of democracy and the murder of minorities. Hell, it almost seems like you’ll be celebrating it.
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Not sure why you’re stupid enough to think the people who have already been victimized by it, though no fault of their own, would feel anything but joy to see people like you, who actually deserve it, get the same treatment.
Yep, you caught me, by voting Dem to hold off fascism a little longer, I actually deserve genocide for the sin of being a minority. What great Leftist theory they teach wherever you went to uni at! They did things differently at my uni.
And yet, we just keep getting more fascist.
Funny how that works… it’s almost like constantly voting for a bunch of rich elites that will reach across the aisle to overt fascists as soon as they are in power has delivered the perfectly predictable outcome.
I wonder how many of the Genocide Joe gaslighters will be showing up when it’s time to actually throw down with nazis and pigs come post-November… my guess is that they will resort to screeching from the sidelines - same as last time.
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We should also pressure our Congressional Representatives.
My rep called for a permanent ceasefire. Makes me at least somewhat happy I voted for him.
To elect the person most likely not to horribly escalate the guaranteed protest post election is quite a strat.
Who ever said politics were boring? Shits on fire, literally
Well you’re half right
I could’ve worded it better my bad.
Also don’t forget the supreme court. 2 of the conservatives justices are getting old and couldnpossibly retire during a trump term to assure a partisan republican court for several decades.
The comments have (no pun intended) gone off the rails. Locking.
Just because you’d pull one of those levers if it comes down to it doesn’t mean you shouldn’t do what you can to avert things before it comes to that.
I mean, if you’ve got a plan, I’m all for it. Absolutely, keep protesting against the genocide, boycotting Israeli goods, doing whatever you can. If you’ve got plans for a mass revolution taking to the streets, by all means.
But, if it comes down to it, election day comes and the current state of affairs is ongoing, you have to know which lever to pull, vile as it is. The greater evil helps no one.
If these are our options, tear up the fucking track.
If you have a viable way of doing so before the election, by all means, share your idea.
Otherwise, pull the lever and return to planning track disposal after election day.
Ok, let us know when you start.
Oh you want us to do it while you sit at home and we get shot? Typical.
I’m a union and community organizer. I’m already working on this shit. Let me know when you want to come and help.
Good illustration!
Knocking it out of the park with these memes lately PugJesus!
Let’s see the “both sides are the same”/“vote third party” crowd scamper out into the light to get shut the fuck down yet again.
Thanks, but I’m a shameless meme thief. I’m just a meme vector!
The messaging is what’s important, so keep on vectoring!
Too bad my country is fast pacing towards a ccp like govt. Modi hai to munkin hai.
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Holy fucking shit… We’ve looped back around with the trolley problem memes to end up back at the actual trolley problem.
The entire reason the trolley problem is a “problem” is because it’s not necessarily morally correct to insert yourself into a problem in order to save people, if by doing so you also condemn someone. It’s debated that it’s better to let an unfortunate scenario in which multiple people die play out - allowing yourself to stay out of the picture and not be responsible - than to take action to minimize the damage, and by doing so become part of the picture and partly responsible for the damage that does occur.
It’s supposed to be a difficult situation, even if taking action saves lives, because by taking action you are specifically partially responsible as an acting member in the scenario. There are a lot of people who believe that it’s better to stay out of it and leave yourself morally untouched for having never taken part in it than to take action, even if the action would save lives. And there are a lot of people who believe that it’s better to take action if you can, especially if it saves lives, even if your actions still condemn people to death.
The whole point is that it’s NOT a scenario with a correct answer. The best answer is the one that lets you sleep at night. Yes, I’ll be voting democrat, but I certainly don’t blame those who believe dirtying your hands by voting for a genocide supporter is an unacceptable act.
It’s debated that it’s better to let an unfortunate scenario in which multiple people die play out - allowing yourself to stay out of the picture and not be responsible - than to take action to minimize the damage, and by doing so become part of the picture and partly responsible for the damage that does occur.
“It’s debated”, yes. Most things are debated. Looking at the trolley problem, I don’t really have any respect for anyone who thinks that a strict deontological interpretation is worth murdering four extra people.
Inaction isn’t innocence, it’s a choice like any other.
Congratulations, you solved the trolley problem. I’ll let all of the philosophers of the world know so you can collect your prize… Inaction isn’t innocence, but the “right” answer isn’t innocence, either. Don’t take solace in the fact that you minimized the damage by condemning a bunch of people you don’t know to death by the very person you supported; this election will be my greatest regret in life for not doing something more to force out a 3rd option, as it should be for all of us.
This is why I never got the trolley problem. It seems so obvious that you’re making a choice either way, and less deaths is better.
Congratulations, you solved the trolley problem. I’ll let all of the philosophers of the world know so you can collect your prize
Thanks. I didn’t realize having strong moral convictions was so rare!
Oh it’s not, it’s just rare for someone to have them while actually understanding morality.
These stupid jokes about centrists really show how fucked up the USA is. Both parties are the same: shit. One is less shit than the other (democrats, to be clear), but they are both still shit. There’s a guy running literally called “Literally Anybody Else”.
Have you considered that your central position doesnt actually do shit besides bitch and moan?
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It should show the rest of the flags above a few meters later on the top track.
You’re so close to being cool sometimes
I’ll take it!
I think DB0 is cool, they just have some bad takes springing from cynicism.
And fuck, getting up in the morning, I can hardly blame them some days.
But we have to do what little we can, as individuals in a world of billions, to oppose what we can, how we can.
I see you post a lot and I think db0 is definitely cooler
oppose what we can, how we can
We gotta go so far past picking between these two garbage choices
We gotta go so far past picking between these two garbage choices
In the long-term, yes.
In the short-term, unless you’ve got an army with massive popular support for a government overthrow hidden in your garage, this is where we’re at.
Exactly right.
Yeah and both sides need the USA flag as well.
Good thing the children in cages, barbed wires and general killing of immingrants in the Mexico border isn’t happening anymore now that Biden is president!
Tell me which political party implemented this?
And which political party made it incredibly difficult to dismantle in the House/Senate?
What? This doesn’t show how the democrats failed to do anything about Roe
You’re absolutely right, if only the Democrats had slipped one of the members of SCOTUS an extra 20$.
The first thing I’ll do as President is sign the Freedom of Choice Act https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BdrOrwmk78Y
Im pro choice https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmzdkAbu8dY
Not my highest priority https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RxiDZejZFjg
parody… No https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1z4uhxpOnN0
Obama had a filibuster proof senate for three weeks, he could have given you a proper health care WITH a public option, but he did a giveaway to big pharma instead. Also could have done Roe at that time…
I hope you guys watch Obama speak in the videos. It’s mind boggling…
Obama had a filibuster proof senate for three weeks
Tell me you don’t understand Congress without telling me you don’t understand Congress.
Three weeks is fucking nothing, especially for a contentious issue.
Three weeks is a long time if you are prepared.
Not in national legislature in this country. Honest question - have you checked out the process for passing bills in Congress? Not being a smart-ass or anything. It’s fucking byzantine and reliant on everyone in a slim majority (or slim supermajority, depending on what you’re trying to do) 100% playing ball. Sometimes it’s also reliant on the opposition playing ball. It’s insane. It’s dysfunctional in the extreme. And during Obama’s term, that dysfunction became worse than ever - either (depending on who you ask) because it had been steadily getting worse since the 90s, or because Obama was Black and the GOP took that opportunity to pander to their most racist supporters by being mindlessly obstructionist (or some mixture of both).
I blame the blue dog Democrats who neutralized that majority, not Obama.
US politics is just professional wrestling, the sooner you understand that, the better. Usually the GOP are the bad guys, but this time it was the blue dog democrats… Whatever it takes to keep the class helping policy from being passed. R’s don’t want class helping policy passed and D’s don’t want class helping policy passed. D’s pretend they want it, though.
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Let? You realize that Trump got to pick three SCOTUS justices because of McConnell’s fuckery, right?
No, no, you see, the fact that Obama didn’t coup the government and take up power as a dictator is PROOF that liberals are actually ANTI-democracy and hate minorities. He Is Very Smart.
They’re just fascists who think being painted red makes them anti-fascist.
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I’m sure you’ll be loudly crowing about “AT LEAST I DIDN’T VOTE FOR GENOCIDE JOE!” as wheelbarrows of bodies are carted out from the showers.
Hell, maybe you’ll even be a good capo for them, since you adore fascism so much.
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Your threats are getting increasingly overt as your mask slips off, fascist
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Because it is so easy to change the justices in the supreme court.
“Just DO it! See? The fact that Dems HAVEN’T is PROOF that they DON’T CARE”
Like, someone wants to say that Dems are a bunch of milquetoast moderates who aren’t playing hardball against fascists they SHOULD be playing hardball against? They aren’t fucking wrong.
But the idea that the two are equivalent or just as bad as each other is either insanity or regurgitation of fascist propaganda.
We should not be satisfied with Dems. That’s not the same as ‘let the Republicans win’.
(all in agreement with you, mind, I understood your sarcasm)
I feel like Dems are “centrists”™ but yeah. I take the “ignorant and privileged centrists” over the “actively hateful fascists”
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Do you understand how they could change it? Like what their options are and the implications of it?
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Comments like this make me realize how shitty the education system in America is. Go take an online civics course or read book, just do something to educate yourself about how laws are passed at the federal level.
And what’s worse is they’ll probably not fix the issue as it is an excellent rallying call.
