• Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.works
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    The lesson here is don’t buy anything from Sony because you don’t get what you bought. Sony is a dead company. Don’t even pirate their shit. Let the corpse rot where it falls.

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            How long have you had yours? I’ve had 3 8bitdo controllers (iirc, sn30/ Pro/ Pro 2) and none of them work anymore. They also had a ton of connection and software issues leading up to becoming bricks.

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              I’ve had a SN30 Pro+ since 2019 and bought subsequent models (2 8bitdo Pro 2s and one wired Pro 2) in 2021 and 2022. My most used one sees multiple uses a week and has traveled intercontinentally with me alongside my Pro from 2019. The only issue I’ve ever had has been the rechargable battery pack dying but that can be replaced with two AAs or you can buy a new pack direct from 8bitdo.

              Hell, my Bluetooth NES30 from 2014 still works on the original battery. The only ones I can’t confirm still work right now are my N30s that are in storage.

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          8bitdo or King Kong 2

          Sadly I also primarily use a DualSense, specifically for the touchpad.

          But I love the 8bitdo for emulators, and the King Kong for racing games.

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            My KingKong 3’s are good, my only advice is don’t switch the triggers into digital mode while pressing the trigger, it breaks the internal mechanism.

            However I managed to convince them to send me a repair kit rather than doing a replacement, which worked out really well. They’re very easy to repair.

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    You won’t let us install a rootkit on your system? :-(

    Well no multiplayer for you, cheater! >:-(

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    Walled garden salesman nr 1, go fuck yourself sony. Gladly there are enough great games these days.

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    Sony really doesn’t get it. Their leadership has seemed poor for a while now, I’m still annoyed they closed their Japan studio

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      Out of curiosity, why are you annoyed at them closing their Japan studio? They have a ton of game credits, but were mostly a support studio. Like, technically they have credits on Bloodborne but I think everyone pretty much agrees that’s a FromSoft game.

      The only recent original games from them I see is Knack and Knack 2. Personally I thought they were pretty decent and are better than just a meme game, but at the same time they weren’t exactly successful hits either. Is there some hit game or series I’m missing here?

      And what was left of them was just merged into Team Asobi. Which I find kind of funny because Asobi was originally a team from Japan Studio that was split off.

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        They created a lot of novel and inventive games. Shadow of the Colossus is definitely their magnum opus but it’s the small weird games they were notable for that I feel Sony is missing at this point. Astrobot getting a full game is encouraging but I think Sony needs to further step back from their carousel of third person action games.

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          They didn’t create Shadow of the Colossus. They were a support studio for Team Ico.

          Same thing for almost all of their games. The Astro series is from Team Asobi. Gravity Rush was from Team Silent/Team Gravity/Project Siren (that studio kept changing its name). Parappa the Rapper was NanaOn-Sha. Death Stranding was Kojima Productions. Patappn was from Pyramid.

          LocoRoco was an original, but that series hasn’t been touched since 2008. I doubt many of the original devs were even still there by 2021. Ape Escape and Legend of Dragon are similar.

          Japan Studio has too many games to check them all, but all the ones that I recognize as good and memorable games are from other studios.

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            They were all part of Japan studio though, at least they left together to create bokeh studio.

            That’s like saying that Square Enix Business Division 3 isn’t Square Enix, but you would never deny they made kingdom hearts, so weird seeing someone going to bat for Jim Ryan.

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        Japan Studio was one of those developers that were allowed to experiment and take risks with smaller/cheaper titles for the PlayStation platform. Sony seems to be aiming at only making recognizable franchises and safe bets, kind of like how Disney is still leaning hard on Star Wars and Marvel to keep making money. This is a terrible move as they’re no longer even trying to compete with the creativity and smaller budget of indie developers.

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    This is especially egregious when you remember the PS4 and PS5 operating system are themselves based on FreeBSD, meaning the original game was natively targeting a Unix-like OS to begin with. So to then say it won’t run on Linux is a huge middle finger.

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      No, “based on” doesn’t tell us anything. Just that to avoid repeating work they took FreeBSD.

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        I work on an open source project in my free time. Officially we support Linux, Windows, and macOS.

        I had to change ~2 lines of code to port the Linux/Mac code path to FreeBSD. Windows has a completely different code path for that critical segment because it’s so different compared to the three Unix/Unix-like.

        This is a very specific example from a server side code that leaves out a lot of details. One being that we wrote our project with the intent that it would be multi platform by design. Game software is wildly complicated compared to what we do. The point here is that it should be easier to port Unix to Unix-like compared to Unix to Windows.

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          I’ve heard that PS3 games, while the OS was too, I think, based on FreeBSD, ran in a sort of a hypervisor and used some features of the Cell architecture.

          I’ve never read about PS4 and PS5 OS’s, and them being Intel-based should mean that it’s possibly less exotic.

          Of course various unices are almost source-compatible.

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        It tell us quite a lot actually; the native PlayStation game was running on a POSIX system, on x86(-64), and Vulkan/OpenGL. Ergo, it took extra work to port the game to Windows, when the original title ran on something very close to a Linux desktop.

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          As far as I know PS4/PS5 don’t support OpenGL or Vulkan, they have their own APIs.

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      No, because the thing that’s breaking is not graphics related (which is the major difference between Windows and Unix), it’s very likely an anti-cheating measure that’s trying to gain root access to the computer, and when it can’t it crashes the game. This is not an issue on Playstation because Sony controls the OS so they’re okay with giving root access to the game or (more likely) are okay with that part of the code not running while on a PlayStation.

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    this is going to do a better job of getting me to not play their game then they’re helldivers 2 scandal. I’m avoiding Windows like the plague now and currently the only game I have to jump back to Windows for his Beast of Bermuda and I don’t play that one all that often. There’s no way in hell I’m going to even consider buying a new games that won’t work on via Proton lol

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    Time to finish that last 10% of Ratchet and Clank so I can refund it if they pull this crap.

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    At least that rootkit anti-cheat prevents all the cheaters. There totally aren’t any cheaters in games protected by rootkit anti cheat systems like in valorant. Right? Riiiiiiight?

    Fuck em. I’ll stick with games that work on steam deck and Linux then.

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      Honestly anti-cheat is dead going forward because much of the new cheats being developed exist hardware powered by machine learning. Competitive multiplayer is already just a shambling corpse, but somehow people haven’t caught on yet.

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    Stop buying Playstation games, Sony have always been scummy.

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      Sony have always been scummy.

      Never forget the literal rootkit Sony used as a “DRM” a while back lmao

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        And that they completely dumped their PC gaming division(?) SOE a decade ago, and expect people to pretend this is their first go around PC gaming and give them slack for it.

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      Might as well say “stop buying AAA games”, as they all are made by corporations, who are, as we know, scummy.
      But we aren’t gonna stop, are we? Like, I don’t even play them, I play retro and indie games, but an occasional AAA still slips in.

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        Pretty much this, yeah. Triple A games used to be the ones pushing the envelope, now they are exclusively just cash grabs.

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        Dude, speak for yourself, the last AAA title I bought was MH:W at massive discout many years after the next iteration released. I’ve never even considered a AAA title that wasn’t several years old already, that have had plenty of time to show exactly how scummy they are.

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          First of all, I never said I buy them on release. I pretty much but all of my games on discount. Except for Factorio.
          And also, you tell me to speak for myself and then immediately admit to buying an occasional AAA. So turns out I was speaking for you, too.
          But most importantly, the point was that my statement will be true for vast majority of people. They aren’t gonna stop buying AAA games.

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            Hmm, when people say “stop buying AAA games” it’s usually a sentiment similar to “stop preordering games”. A purchase long after release and at a heavy discount isn’t really economically relevant, especially after the next product has been out for several years.

            When you said you let a AAA game in occassionally, it seemed like you were saying you bought something like GoT when it released on your platform, and that people will continue to do that. Saying that people need to stop buying AAA games is about forcing AAA studios to change, and to stop allowing them to clown around. If everyone stopped buying AAA games on release year, that’s already 90% as effective as ignoring the bargin bin sales too.

            So maybe you were speaking for me, but I think you did that poorly. The purchases that allow AAA studios to continue being dickwads are about as far removed from my purchases as you can get without learning how to hoist a sail, and even those up for consideration are eliminated 9 times out of 10. Trying to accuse me of funding the race-to-the-bottom enshitification is missing the mark.

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      Back in PS3 days Sony were the ones that let you install any hard drive you wanted, didn’t make you pay for multiplayer, and let you install Linux on your PS3.

      But now they are worse overall.

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        and let you install Linux on your PS3.

        Until they didn’t. I got 10$ out of that class action LMAO I’d say when they took that away, that was the beginning of the enshittification of Sony

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        I doubt this will ever completely happen. I think Microsoft would turn windows into a full blown console with forced DRM for all games and software with perfect license tracking before sony, microsoft’s xbox division and nintendo bowed out.

        The only great thing is that indies can be successful without being under a major publisher. Steam kind of has a stranglehold though for no good reason other than the fact they were the first and thus the most popular one. I still remember losing out on sharing half life cd keys with my buddies. Only one could be used at a time online but few of us were online all the time, this was still in the tail end of the dialup era.

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    Funny how all the games that don’t work on Linux also want your data must just be a technical thing though sure they aren’t being malicious.