I just want the Manjaro Arm to not fizzle the gui’s and run Firefox at speeds faster than 1980s era internet…

Or any desktop distro, even gnome or ubuntu

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    Let me know if you find a fix. I’m trying to stream 3 of my cameras to the Synology surveillance GUI, and it’s a fucking slideshow. I get a few frames a minute.
    Gonna try the same thing on an orange pi

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      Relevant blog post.

      Remember when if your aunt wanted you to build her a computer that she’d only use for “web browsing”, that meant you could opt for the cheap components?

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        Last year, I got myself a new Camera, a Lumix S5, and after uploading some photos to DeviantArt (I have had the same account for almost 20 years) and browsing my gallery I realized that I had had enough.

        It was so slow and annoying to work with.

        So I sat down and started work on a simple webpage that I could host on a normal webhost.

        And I built a nice index page in HTML/CSS, and then used photo albums generated by digiKam for the photo albums.

        It loads fast, it is easy to navigate, fairly easy to update, and the photo albums can be navigated with arrow keys or swipe gestures.

        I am considering writing a blog UI for me to be able to make a simple blogging page, I’ll still write it in static HTML/CSS, so I’ll have to write every blog entry in HTML as it stands now, but I’ll keep looking for easier alternatives

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          If you like doing the web dev work, it’s not hard to implement a simple bbcode using regex matching and replacement. At least, it was pretty easy using php and sql.

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          Word. I often complain at work how programming and programmers seem to take “computing resources are cheap” as “USE FUCKING EVERYTHING”. There is fuckloads of bloat and web frameworks that are somehow marketed as “lightweight” despite making everything, even the development speed, worse in nearly every aspect.

          Video playback is a wholly different thing, tho, because of all the encoding/decoding that keeps file size down.

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          Grav is pretty cool if you like mark down. I haven’t used it for a gallery but inserting photos is easy enough

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        But they should. Or at least comparable.

        Think about the difference between Reddit and Lemmy. They both offer similar functionality, but Reddit will set your phone on fire if it gets the chance.

        The same is true for YouTube. Browsing YouTube is scrolling through an image gallery, only video playback should be a problem. Yet, it will consume more resources than a well equipped laptop had when YouTube was launched. That’s insane.

        We’re moving in a direction where computers get faster and faster, but for the last 10 years or so, the actual utility of the system as a whole stagnated. Besides games, what can a modern computer do, that a 2014 model couldn’t?

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          You think it’s bad now? Wait until ChatGPT is the one coding things.

          Modern hardware allows for bloat, and so bloat is made. Add in a huge helping of tracking everything you do, and you get a shit pi.

          Now repeat but also mess up the code some more.

          Behold: the true Web 3.0

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            You think it’s bad now? Wait until ChatGPT is the one coding things.

            I mean AI code is getting banned from tons of open source projects. I don’t expect a huge AI programming boom, except for proprietary software that I won’t use on my personal systems anyways

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            I am interested to see how people will use chatgpt along with reinforcement learning and brute force to optimise code

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        Yeah, it’s amazing how upvoted the previous comment is. Just a bunch of idiots jumping on the web-hate bandwagon when even basic media players like Kodi have a tough time playing back video on the Pi.

        It just isn’t a very optimized device for video playback. The Pi 5 is actually a step backwards as well, providing only H265 hardware video decode which the web doesn’t even use.

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          It’s weird to me hearing people say the Pi isn’t great for video playback when the SoC isn’t that dissimilar from what’s in a Roku box.

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    I recently dipped my toe into Linux with a raspberry pi and couldn’t figure out why Firefox was so laggy. I thought maybe I did something wrong.

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      Try it in a vm if you don’t want to install it on bare metal (that isn’t a raspberry pi)

      You can also find cheap ass second hand laptops on ebay for similar prices to pis but should have much better performance, especially if you’re willing to do some upgrades like installing a cheap ssd instead of the hdd.

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    I run OSMC on a Pi 4 and it plays h.265 & h.264 videos at 1080p and h.262 at 576p just fine.

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        I don’t know moonlight and don’t know what you mean by “certain typed documents”, but AFAIK, OSMC is just Raspbian with some additional stuff. What I am saying is that media playback works just fine performance-wise for some media formats.

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          Moonlight is for game streaming. Basically if you want to run anything newer than an N64 on a Pi, you can stream it with moonlight from a more powerful computer. It’s easy on local network, but can take a little bit more know how to set up for remote play (looked like if you want to play something on your phone away from home for example).

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    YouTube serves VP9 video (and more recently a lot of AV1) and I think the Pis only have hardware accelerated decoding of H.264/5 as it stands today

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      this is why h264ify is a pre-installed extension in RPiOS’ builds of browsers.

      made sense, until the Pi 5 dropped h264 hw decode. still waiting for a good explanation of that.

      It’s a good thing projects like Armbian are steadily improving support for Rockchip-based SBCs, to open up the market beyond Raspberry.

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    Raspberry PIs don’t have a proper GPU with decoding. That’s part of why they stink. The other issue is that they are locked to the Raspberry Pi kernel. They are absolutely proprietary!

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        To be honest with you I don’t know what chip the Banana pi has so I don’t know. It just annoys me that RPi is a Broadcom device

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      Tried to get tons of distros working on my pi5 last week. It sucked. Then I found out that I need some special kernel.

      But I thought it’s just about things that aren’t merged into the mainline kernel yet?

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    I’m running an all the mods 6 Minecraft server on my pi 5 with zero lag

    No idea how video performance is but it’s got a dedicated GPU so supposedly better.

    Booting from an NVME, official heat sink/fan and proper power supply

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      External video card would probably work well now that you mention it. But at that point, for what I want to use it for, I might as well do an Intel Mini PC since it would use less power.

      But good project idea if I ever want to set up a Minecraft server.

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      Same setup as you, fan and NVMe and I can play 720-1080p video without any issues from all of the streaming platforms I’ve tried so far as well as local files. Also streaming 1080p 60Hz gameplay from my gaming setup over LAN with no problems.

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        2 or 3 at a time normally but I’m fairly sure it could handle more depending on modpack

        If you’re doing it you need to get absolutely all the optimisation mods you can for the version and most importantly pregenerate the world. Once you do those things with two or 3 on it’ll hover around 80% CPU usage

        I will say with 4 players on Infernal Origins it struggles, I suspect because it turns up the mob spawn rate, adds custom mob AI and generates massive unlit caves everywhere for them to spawn in

        On the ATM server we have 5 max upgraded apotheosis mob spawner grinders running 24/7 chunk loaded and the server’s still pretty snappy still

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      Man people are weird, I guess people like web trackers & ads. I won’t bring up ad blockers up I guess.

      So weird I thought people valued privacy.😅