Anon learned his professor wants you to lie.
kinda par for the course… literally a business course so…
I’d say that this is one of the few exceptions to the “those who can’t do teach” stereotype being bullshit but clearly he sucks at teaching others ethics as much as he sucks at being ethical in his own behavior 🤷
Those who can’t do teach, and those who can’t teach manage. After working with normal people, teachers and managers I have concluded that managers should be excluded from homo sapiens sapiens. They are more like chimpanzees with some learnt behaviours that they don’t fully understand but will perform for a treat.
I don’t actually think I know what a manager is. I’ve always thought it was synonymous with supervisor, but I’m a supervisor and I do all the work the guys I work with do plus the “manager” responsibilities. There is no time where I’m just sitting around sipping coffee or whatever the memes are. I’m building shit and fixing the problems my team come across.
I guess I’ve just never worked in a place where I’ve had the kind of management people complain about.
I guess I look at this as the teacher setting the tone early to disabuse the students of any false notions of what the ethics class actually is. Shame they did it in such a shitty way, but I see that as part of their point too. I’m not sure I believe the scenario is necessarily real, but if it is, the message would be appear to be that going forward everyone must understand that this isn’t going to be about how to be ethical, but how to appear to meet artificial requirements that pay lip service to ethics. A teaching to the test kind of approach.
Teaching explicitly that they should act unethically (lie about their ethical convictions) to ensure they meet future expectations of falsely signalled ethics, and teaching that through a pretty unethical act of deception and public humiliation delivers this message quite succinctly and makes it pretty clear what to expect here on in.
well yeah. business ‘school’.
Yeah, teaching ethics at a business school is like teaching bicycle repair to a school of fish 🤷
no. it’s teaching deer behavior to rednecks with rifles and erections you REALLY don’t want to ask any questions about.
“ha ha no judgement (:” proceeds to judge
methinks professor is not very ethical
Yeah, he said to lie
Business ethics is the opposite of ethics.
This guy looks like Walton Goggins during the reading of Pierce’s will in Community.
my business ethics professor was fired for sexually assaulting a student
Oh, now I get it. So business ethics is just bizarro ethics.
Don’t you mean Blizzard ethics?
Brazzers ethics correct
basically.
ethics as long as it’s marketable and in any other situation it’s just selfishness and how to masquerade that as marketable ethics
We Care tm
sounds like he was a master of the subject.
So are most, it’s either rape or embezzlement. Most don’t have access to funds to embezzle so rape is more common
Anon had a massive dunk on his professor lined up.
“You said there would be no judgement and said that people should lie rather than put an accurate score on an ethics survey. Wouldn’t that make your score lower than 36 then?”
The professor probably would have responded that his response was another part of the lesson: don’t trust those above you in a business setting.
I guess the answer would be “but I have a job already”…
“Yeah, and judging by how you immediately put down one of your students I suspect you lied to get it.”
“Now you’re getting it kid.”
why are ethics and sustainability in the same class? They are 2 different fields. It’d be like lumping a sociology and math class together.
Buddy, do I have news for you.
business school. you treat them both the same way.
I’m a professor at a business school. They are 2 different fields.
i think the lesson from this thread is to distrust anything you say, no (well maybe some) offense
Sure buddy
In a business school they’re the same thing: stuff we have to put on the syllabus so it looks like we care about them.
It’s not like they actually teach those subjects, they just need to appear on the timetable. So putting them together works fine.
Business school seems to be the exact polar opposite of therapy
American Psycho was a documentary.
“And I wouldn’t want to work for a liar” is the obvious comeback to this.
Business school culture sucks, news at 11…
There’s a Harvard Professor named Richard Wolfe who always likes to tickle his audience by asking the question “Why do universities have an Economics department that’s distinct and separate from the Business School?” And then he gets into the distinctions between the western ideology around economic planning relative to the practical education around running an efficient business.
The People’s Republic of Walmart also goes into this bifrication of western understanding of efficient economic practices. Theorists preach the value of competition and choice and flexibility and auction pricing, while successful CEOs tend to prefer strict hierarchies over regional monopolies with steady schedules and well-defined quotas and flat fees.
Listening to professors who are also chief officers of companies tickle the balls of capitalistic idealogies to young adults fresh out of high school.
that is business school, yes.
Agree, with arguments: https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/apr/27/bulldoze-the-business-school
On the one hand, this is a great article. On the other, I now have to go the rest of my day knowing that I said that about an article published by the Guardian.
Professor was acting unethically.
He claimed there would be no judgement, and then didn’t follow through on that condition.
He also instructed the student to lie in the future.
Where is my A+?
taking a greentext as a true story
Sounds like business ethics to me.
Ah yes. “Ethics.”
And the student himself acting ethically despite thinking they’re only 36/100
The teacher sold it to a different student who kissed his ass harder.
Hypothetically, if you kidnapped the prof, tied him up and gagged him until he gave you an A, wouldn’t you have earned it? Based on his example, and the voices in my head.
Any other place you’d be on the fast track to management.
Nah, he wants to see if anon can be shamed about his lack of ethics.
If he is shameless, CEO behavior.
If he is ashamed, McDonald’s behavior.
If you lie about it, then just par for the course and you can be a broker anywhere. Gotta feed out the line to find the narcissistic socios and not the stealthy ones.
Aye same thought. He was testing the group. OP should have been blunt like “IDGAF and was the only one of you honest enough to admit it”
In business school
I think I found your problem.
I woulda told him to practice his preachings
Be ethical by lying about being ethical!
