They fucking tested this on myth busters. Don’t store bullets near fire
Pretty sure I learnt this one from a Chip n Dale cartoon when I was about six.
So I initially went to the page to see if that was confirmed or busted because I couldn’t remember (I do recall them having difficulty just keeping bullets in the oven) and I ended up finding this instead:
I don’t remember that episode at all!
Well son of a gun
I wouldn’t be surprised if we find out later this was a murder attempt
So you’re saying they had a… cook off?
Nice
On this episode of “Great American Bake-Off”
I didn’t know they had a version with kids competing
The husky-dog stare of Paul Hollywood as he eats a gun: “That’s a shame, it’s under baked.”
wait… when you say “fired” do we mean, chambered, and fired down the barrel, cleared, and then cycled fully, repeating, or do we mean the rounds just popped off in the stack, not in the chamber.
The ‘article’ or accompanying video didn’t specify unfortunately. I guess it is possible the hottest round would be the one chambered and cooks off, engaging the semi auto chambering mechanism loading the next round and repeat.
yeah, i could see one round firing, but more than one and i think it’s probably just cooking off inside the mag lol.
If the gun was plastic, the barrel would definitely be the hottest part of the gun. Would still be true if the gun was a lighter metal, I think. Hmmm
Commenters are getting this backwards. If there was a round in the chamber it would be the last to go off, not the first. Whereas the rest of the rounds are directly exposed to the heat, the chambered round has a thick metal barrel around it protecting it from that heat.
i’d think it probably depends. the barrel itself is quite large and transmits heat pretty well, given that if it didn’t shit would melt.
compared to rounds in the magazine which are more closely exposed, but through plastic, or air, which doesn’t transmit heat quite as effectively.
i guess we should probably put a gun in an oven and see what happens hm?
While the oven is preheating, allow me to postulate that the thermal mass of the barrel, especially in vicinity of the breech, would require far more exposure to heat to reach the temperature required for the powder to spontaneously ignite.
This is why hot gun cook-offs occur, because the barrel has absorbed enough heat that it’s able to ignite the powder through the casing via conduction. As such, as you would expect, after containing a single explosion (i.e. firing a round), the chamber would be warm to the touch while the exterior of the barrel would remain cool. It’s not until the metal is exposed to enough heat internally that the barrel becomes too hot to touch externally.
So that’s my logic here. If it was suddenly 500 degrees outside, I think the safest place to hide a bullet in a gun to keep it from exploding is the chamber.
yeah, that’s a possibility, but maybe if it’s a really slow preheat, or over a long enough time period, it might be possible.
Although you might expect the magazine to also cook off, but if you have a round chambered in the barrel, it might be an inevitability at that point so.
Or if the gun barrel is in direct contact with the element (as in “hid” on the bottom of the stove).
that would be a fun setup, self disabling LMAO
Possible with a semi auto, since the chamber and barrel would transmit heat better to a chambered round then the magazine and all the safety parts don’t really assume cook off. Yeah a round fires, slide racks back and loads next round, next round cooks off, over and over until all rounds are the same temp.
Spooky stuff.
looking at the images they showed the handle looked messed up, the call also stated an explosion not multiple, suggesting all the ammo went off at once.
I would assume even if a few rounds went off in the barrel once a set temp was reached they would all cook off. The mechanics of this is really interesting.
it’s possible, but i’d also assume you would probably not have a round chambered at all, so. Although, depending on the gun, it’s not held back, so you’re probably not going to properly rack and engage another round into the chamber. From what i understand, most small handguns have this problem if you limpwrist them. It’s less common sometimes, but i imagine if it’s not being held at all, this is going to be a pretty common occurrence.
This is the same person that put a loaded firearm in the oven we both know there was a round in the chamber.
And no, in my experience very few hand guns have the “limpwrist” issue.
This is the same person that put a loaded firearm in the oven we both know there was a round in the chamber.
yeah, that’s probably fair.
And no, in my experience very few hand guns have the “limpwrist” issue.
hmm, either case, this guns is im assuming just sitting in there, so if it does fire a round, the force to rack the slide would have to be less than the required force to move the gun around. It’s possible it could do both, due to physics fuckery, but i’ve not exactly tested that one…
I really want to test this, but the idea of inventing a more random version of Russian roulette where the gun is in a box and will shoot at random in a random direction you can not see…
Damn it, I need to test this.
the gun in the box is both fired and not fired, until we look inside the box BANG OW!
Well that is on you for looking inside the box. Do you know nothing about quantum gun ovens?
Can I recommend digging a hole to test in. In addition to the typical hide behind a very solid wall not right next to it with some way to remotely pull the trigger. And one live round with the followup round being a dummy would also be a good bet.
But there are so many variables to test here… If it works on a smooth surface then you gotta see if it works on a surface like an oven rack. Would have to check different models as well. We just really need some semiprofessional to test this thoroughly.
I would need to ether dig a whole and also have a bullet stopping roof on it or build a four berm range. I was thinking the better way to test it would be to hand load some rounds with the same powder load and bullet weight (needed to cycle the action) but with a bullet equivalent that is not capable of much penetration (like a fine lead powder).
I think I would start with 2 rounds and the firearm fixed in place (to test if the action will cycle at all). Then go to oven with gun on baking sheet and 2 rounds. Then go oven rack and 2 rounds. And then maybe baking sheet and full mag if it all worked as theorized. I don’t think you need a way to pull the trigger since the firearm while heating is inherently in an unsafe condition, you would have to instead leave the thing to cool for a long time (also to rule out hang fires) and unload the rounds for inspection (not to be reused).
Amazed to see this. New old house. Used oven for first time. Some sort of stench and black gunk dripping from top heat shield. Gas stove. Investigate. Pull out pieces of a gun. Glock or something. Previous owner stops by for mail (unusual situation). I had over the melted pieces, “you forget something in the oven?” “Oh shit. No problem, I can fix it.” "uh… Okaaaaay… "
What is this scenario referring to? Is there another article with actual details, or…?
Maybe he meant he could fix the oven. Which he could … by moving.
He can 3D print or just but a new frame. The metal parts will be fine.
But maybe that individual should not.
True
You need a proper goven if you’re going to do that
Do not store a LOADED gun.
Unloaded guns are useless if you need one.
That’s why we load them when we use them.
Ideally, avid gun enthusiasts and the dumbest fucking people on the planet would be two separate circles of people, and yet…
Well, the chief of police in my city did this (accidental discharge of gun in the oven) once, so make of that what you will. He did have the integrity to discipline himself, per department policy.
They generally are.
Problem is there is a tiny little overlap in the middle of that Venn diagram, and that tiny overlap seems to be responsible for a great deal of problems.We will have to disagree upon how tiny that overlap is. I don’t think it’s as tiny as you’d like to believe.
I don’t think there’s nearly as many as you think. It’s a perception bias, the few that there are stick out a lot because they are hilariously stupid so you read about them a lot and it seems common.
Keep in mind that in the US, about half the households are armed. And the half that own guns own enough guns to arm the other half. There’s more guns than people in this country. If they’re truly was a significant overlap between very stupid people and gun ownership, the nation would be like a roadrunner cartoon with Yosemite Sam type a shootouts and people firing into the air on every street corner. That is seriously not the case.
(I don’t have time to make an image right now, but anyway)
Hey America, how you doing?
Don’t keep your gun in the oven.
Oh.
Mythbusters S05E16. Loose bullets fire off but do not have energy to pierce the metal. A gun will fire a lethal bullet
Because of the lack of barrel. But in this case the gun was loaded so it should come out full force
Hot bullets get your hot bullets!
I wonder if there was a round in the chamber, and it was able to cycle.
Only one way to find out
On one hand, it’s stupid as hell to store a firearm anywhere but in a safe/cabinet designed for them. An oven is another level of stupid
On the other, I used to store our cast iron Dutch oven in the oven and I can’t tell you how many times I started preheating the oven and then remembered to take it out. Usually after its oil seasoning started to heat up
I mean to be fair who likes to eat cold lead
Uhhhh, also don’t store loaded guns? Like, at all. Anywhere.
This is the part that’s boggling my mind.
- Stored guns in an oven.
- Stored guns loaded.
But not content to stop there:
- Stored loaded guns, inside an oven.
At least here in Missouri, no licensing or training is required to own one of these deadly weapons.
And it shows.
