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Summary
The International Criminal Court (ICC) has issued arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, former defense minister Yoav Gallant, and Hamas officials, accusing them of war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza and during the October 2023 attacks.
The court alleges actions like depriving Gaza civilians of essential resources.
Israel and the U.S., non-members of the ICC, reject the warrants, with Netanyahu calling them antisemitic.
Hamas also criticized the decision.
The practical enforcement of these warrants remains uncertain, as the ICC lacks authority to compel arrests.
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Well the ICC won’t let me be or let me be me so we’ll just see. – Benjamin Netanyahu
Better late than never, for all the good it will do…
How’s that working out?
The name of the game is sanctions. Russian can sustain itself under “nuclear” sanctions. Sanction Israel, and the comfortable lifestyle of illegal Lebensraum settlers will start to look rather unattractive.
ICC charges are directed at individuals, not entire countries. They wouldn’t justify sanctions for the same reason governments don’t sanction Saudi Arabia for being the home of bin Laden.
I couldn’t think of a more absurd analogy. If Osama Bin Laden was Saudi Arabia’s head of state, and 9/11 was carried out by the Saudi military, and Saudi was party to the Rome Statute, then maybe you make such an analogy. As it actually stands, Netanyahu’s crimes were carried out by the state of Israel and that certainly has legal bearing inside the EU’s courts, with very recent precedent - sanctions on Russia citing the ICC arrest warrant for Putin. And Russia is not even party to the Rome Statute - the state of Israel is, and would be violating by not giving Netanyahu up.
crimes were carried out by the state
The same is true of others facing ICC charges. For example, Hamas leaders face ICC charges, but that does not justify sanctions against Palestine.
sanctions on Russia citing the ICC arrest
Sanctions against Russia couldn’t cite the ICC charges, because they began long before Putin was charged by the ICC.
the state of Israel is
Like the US and Russia, Israel is not a party to the Rome Statute.
How would you sanction Gaza? It’s already blockaded and being starved to death.
Hamas leaders face ICC charges, but that does not justify sanctions against Palestine.
The EU does not recognize Hamas as the legitimate representative of the Palestinian Territories. It defines it as a non-state actor and a terror group, so what you said is also a terrible analogy. I don’t know why you keep using the word “justify”. Do you mean legally or morally? Sanctions would be targetted at specific individuals, firms and military/government components, not the state of Israel as such.
Sanctions against Russia couldn’t cite the ICC charges, because they began long before Putin was charged by the ICC.
Packages 11-14 were all issued after the ICC judgement. European Commission’s statements on the ICC warrant speak quite clearly about Russian culpability, not just Putin’s culpability.
He wasn’t able to travel to Brazil for this reason. I’d say its working
I mean it’s done quite a lot to diplomatically isolate them, right? Putin couldn’t go to South Africa for BRICS, he couldn’t attend the G20 summit this week, and presumably lots of other trips he hasn’t done that he would have otherwise intended to
In Israel’s case, I expect this will be a pain for Netanyahu more than it has been for Putin, since the set of countries that are neither ICC signatories nor actively hostile to Israel is a pretty short list
He’ll still go back and forth to the US without issue I’d imagine.
It would be a shame if his plane had engine issues and was forced to land in an ICC country. Just a shame.
Yes indeed, sadly the US is not a signatory
The US and others were fine with it when they issued a warrant for Putin, I’m sure they’ll be on board for this as well, right?
This makes us look weak and hypocritical to the rest of the world. Stop the unjust war of aggression and annexation! No wait, I meant the other one. This one is a-OK.
This is part of the collapse of American soft power around the world.
One thing that many people in America have already learned the hard way, is that conservative Americans could not care less about being hypocritical. In fact, I’m convinced that some see it as a plus because while it means nothing to them, it always seems to “trigger the libs”.
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Biden is lucky he didnt get included in the warrant.
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It’s about fucking time! This should’ve happened much earlier.
Anf of course Netanyahu is hiding behind the discrimination card.
Kudos to the ICC and make sure they are cell mates. Damn shame it will not happen.
If I ever saw this yahoo and the other yahoo putin, I would shub this yahoo up putin’s arse. It’s a little unlikely but that’s the plan. And probably poke both thru with a cable, and I would give the cable a bunch of extra twists so they couldn’t get out.
‘‘How are you today?’’ ‘‘That’s an antisemitic question.’’
That’s what the constant cry wolf has lead to. The absurd has become real.
Do they think nobody is going to replace them and resume the conflict?
Then why would we persecute anyone? Maybe give that take one more round of thought.
Not everyone we persecute is in a leadership position with high amounts of pressure from the population to do the things we’re punishing them for.
Good news
Finally
One thing, why are the Hamas officials never named, and we never get their reaction? I’d really like I to be able to despise both side of that shit medal evenly.
One thing, why are the Hamas officials never named
they are always named.
They’re in the article:
The court issued a warrant for Mohammed Deif, head of Hamas’ armed wing, over the Oct. 7, 2023, attacks that triggered Israel’s offensive in Gaza…Khan withdrew requests for warrants for two other senior Hamas figures, Yahya Sinwar and Ismail Haniyeh, who have both since been killed. Israel says it also killed Deif in an airstrike, but Hamas has never confirmed his death.
Hamas in a statement welcomed the warrants against Netanyahu and Gallant but made no mention of the one against Deif.
Thank you, I should have verified before commenting. It’s still the feeling I get, that Hamas leadership is way less named than Netanyahu. If at least in the headlines.
They’ve been preparing for this for a while. Months ago already I remember reading accusations of the ICC being antisemitic by Israelis and various sympathisers. The old fiddle that never stops playing.
It goes waaaay back
https://www.972mag.com/icc-israel-surveillance-investigation/
Now do their enablers.
All I want for Christmas is Biden and Blinken in chains.
They couldn’t arrest Bush when he invaded Iraq, they won’t arrest the entire idea of “The leaders of North America and the European Union.”
We can’t arrest Putin, we won’t get Bibi.
Oh for sure. I’m under no illusions about that. But they all deserve the stink of an ICC warrant.
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