• sunglocto@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Is this a joke? Like 2k people on fedi don’t buy anything from Amazon for a week?

    These "economic blackout"s are completely futile. Especially if they only target a single service, or if they target a service as big as Amazon. If this blackout is for everything Amazon operates, you can’t use Twitch, or Fire TV, or Prime Video, or Fire devices, or Kindles, or any website that is run with AWS. You think normies are going to sacrifice all of that ease of use for a week, and even if in some alternate dimension they have any self control over their consumption, they’ll just go back to using Amazon after this protest is over.

    Amazon will survive for 7 days. What about people all around the world that quite frankly don’t give a fuck about uspol? What about subscriptions? Invincible 3x8 comes out in this time period, so nobody will watch it? People will stop using a third of the Internet, their streaming slop devices, their e-celeb propaganda outlets? It simply won’t happen.

    These blackouts are an immature way to “break the system, man”. They completely ignore the reasons why normies go to the slop mill in the first place. The general population has 0 self control over their spending. They will consume, and consume, and consume, until they die.

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      If these measures are not enough; please suggest some more for us to take.

      Don’t let “perfect” be the enemy of “good”.

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        To be frank,

        Constructive criticism has not been well received by anyone lately as apparently everyone just sees it as flat criticism and with the rise of internet echo chambers for every group, criticism in any form immediately points you as an other to be ignored.
        People of all walks only want to hear what is convenient and self confirming.

        And also, people are not ubermensch and do not just have a working plan that perfectly replaces this one the same way this one is ineffective. It will take conversation and community to figure out what works. No one can plan or act alone.

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      What got me is the upcoming one week Nestle and one week General Mills boycotts… Do the people who came up with these boycotts not realize that the stores that carry those products, already paid for those products? And the rebuttal to any skepticism is that it’ll at least get people used to not buying these products or shopping at these places. Do people really need to take baby steps? Is that how much we, as a society, are addicted to buying things? Pat yourself on the back America! Fascism may be quickly on the rise, but good work, you didn’t buy Cheerios for a whole week!

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    Yes. Immediately after the fiscal quarter ends, giving them plenty of time to make up for it when everyone who put it off for a week just buys it the next week. Because that’s when it’ll hurt, not right before they have to report numbers.

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      Still more praxis than this comment.

      At least it’s something.

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        Wait until the last 2 weeks of the fiscal quarter instead of mid-cycle and the rebound bump won’t show up on their quarterly earnings, which will fuck their stock value, which is the only thing that matters to them.

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    A whole 7 days??? Gosh gee willakers!!! You think people can uphold a boycott a whole 7 days???

    Look. Boycotts are effective, but you gotta be stubborn. It’s gotta be “boycott from now on” with no end date.

    Otherwise, it’ll just look like normal fluctuations in their business.

    “Oh, this week was slightly down…ah, but then it stopped. We’re good!”

    But if you boycott forever, then their numbers continuously go down. And if you get other people boycotting, those numbers go down faster.

    THAT’S how you make an impact.

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      In 1995 we boycotted Shell for environmental reasons and it worked: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brent_Spar

      Towing of the platform to its final position began on 11 June. By this time, the call for a boycott of Shell products was being heeded across much of continental northern Europe, damaging Shell’s profitability as well as brand image. […]

      On 20 June, Shell had decided that their position was no longer tenable, and withdrew their plan to sink the Brent Spar […]

      So it needed more than a week of concerted boycott action to bring big business into trouble, but not unlimited boycott.

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        That boycott had a demand attached, to prevent the sinking of the Brent Spar buoy. Effectively “unlimited” boycott until Shell gave into the demand.

        This and the last no shop Friday thing seem mostly pointless. I mean fuck Amazon for sure but shouldn’t there be some goal? “Boycott Amazon until X, Y, and Z” not “No buy from Amazon for a week but then we’ll be back so no worries!”

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            Implicit demands are for mob bosses and boat owners. If you’re threatening a corporation you need to be clear and direct.

            Less

            We are boycotting Amazon products until they stop be bad

            More

            We are boycotting Amazon products until they make another season of The Expanse

            Or whatever. Clear, concrete, demands.

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      How do you get people who can’t see themselves boycotting indefinitely? You get them used to it by getting them on board to boycott for a fixed length of time. Ideally, as they warm up to the idea, you get them to boycott for longer.

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        True, but 7 days isn’t enough time for that. I’ve gone weeks between purchasing the kinds of things Amazon delivers, so it’d just be normal. 2+ months is probably better. Especially if those months are Nov & Dec.

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          Some people can’t even handle a 1-day boycott. I think you’re overestimating the average person’s tolerance for discomfort.

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          I have spent the 38 years I have accumulated without needing to buy a single thing from that particular company. WTF?

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          Yeah but it lets people feel like they’ve boycotted. Which isn’t coddling/faux activism so much as it is starter-activism. We don’t want activism to seem hard… even though we know that effective activism pretty much requires meaningful changes to behaviour which often brings discomfort. People are really out of practice and our goal is getting people into the habit

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            Too late. If not buying unnecessary shit they don’t need from a particular retailer that could be replaced by any other during a previously delimited week seems revolutionary to them… I’m sorry but… They are a huge part of the problem.

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        I have ordered from them line 5 or 6 times, subscribed for a year because I wanted to watch a series by terry Pratchett, and never again interacted with it in the past 8 years or so. You are not boycotting food or water or oxygen.

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      This is how strikes are organized generally. You do limited time events too minimize the hurt on both sides, and bring them both to the table.

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        No. DEI was always performative. Companies realized that they no longer had to pretend to care so they stopped doing performative “DEI training” because it was no longer beneficial to their bottom line.

        It had nothing to do with people shooting cans of Bud Light. It had everything to do with the entire country shifting further with right wing reactionary beliefs.

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      Unorganized boycotts with no demands and no pressure from labor unions are useless. Boycotts in support of labor are absolutely class solidarity.

      This one is useless. As most “reddit” boycotts are.

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    Wtf do people even need from there that they can’t get from temu or elsewhere…

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    I stopped buying on Amazon Jan 20. I will cancel Amazon Prime today. Many people will also stop buying and many people will cancel Prime. When they stop buying for a week, they tend to find alternatives that they stick with. I was buying several hundred dollars worth of merch but have found better alternatives. I will not go back. Seven days is just a start. Amazon is noticing.

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    Corporations don’t react as much as you’d think to 1 week interruptions in revenue numbers unfortunately as they are beholden to shareholders and shareholders react to quarterly earnings report. To truly send a message it would need to boycott from Q1 to Q2, basically Jan-April or even May.

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        Definitely boycott Walmart. They’ve been horrible a lot longer than Amazon. I haven’t purchased from Walmart in a decade and a half and I see no reason to stop now.

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          Yep. I live in the middle of nowhere, I’m not gonna start shopping at Walmart to give up amazon. Walmart was absolute shit first

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          Bad news about Target: they’ve cancelled their DEI initiatives to cater to the administration

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          I used to LOVE target but then they got rid of Mossimo, denim and flowers and anything else good they ever had and started carrying clothes for fucking Mennonites. Seriously, their clothes went from awesome to shit.

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            Yeah the true crime has been how awful cut and beige all their clothing options are now. But they have always chased which ever group they think is in power and spending cash and I guess it’s wannabe trad upper middle class now, instead of queer upper middle class.

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      Can’t - they practically monopolized china reshipment and white labeling In US.

      Best u can do - check qlibaba, temu, AliExpress first and order from there

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    Those fuckers stole my digital comics library. I already stopped using Twitch and I havent bought their shitty and useless Chinese made electronics in years. Fuck Nazis, fuck Amazon, fuck Google, Fuck Trump, Fuck Musk, Fuck America! (the last part I take away when you vote the Orange Fuck Face away!)

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      We have a lot more to atone for than the orange Nazi but thanks for the vote of faith

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    Amazon is just so convenient, it’s hard to say no. If I need new socks, I can press one button and somebody brings it to my front door in a couple hours at a cheap price. Alternative? Order them somewhere else online and get them in a week or drive 20 minutes, deal with parking + crowds to get them a couple dollars more expensive.

    It’s a crap situation but I understand how Amazon got so big.