I love how search engines display inaccessible links.

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    file a ticket.

    You have been permanatley banned from Reddit. if you feel this was a mistake, please use the appeal process

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      Yeah, I questioned the second and third temp bans they gave me. After the last (so, the third) they banned me. I suspect it’s because I was asking.

      Their reasons of course were bullshit, for every single ban (which they confirmed were correctly issued… Morons).

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    This, primarily, is the reason I am paying for Kagi. It allows you to hide shit sites, AKA reddit from search results.

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      Sad part is I find a lot of helpful random material (information about cellphone providers, accounts, all sorts of random edge cases in different domains) and still want to look at the threads, and find a lot of help that way. So I just switch to a VM that’s on a VPN just to check those. Sucks but some information doesn’t exist anywhere else.

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    I read this as “we don’t want you, the user, to interact with our 100% user-content driven website that depends on your presence to keep having value”.

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    It did not used to be this way. Every website result used to be “cached”, but not anymore…

    Enshittification 😔

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      This is not a Reddit problem. A lot of websites throw a fucking hissy fit if you have a VPN turned on, and I’m also over it.

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        There’s a good reason for that, VPNs are extensively used by bot networks for all kinds of activity. But VPN use by bots is actually coming down slowly as bot networks start to switch to residential mobile networks - it’s impossible to block them and you can cycle connections automatically like you do with VPN when using specialised residential mobile IP providers. So maybe web sites will stop blocking VPNs in a few years.

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        That’s the problem isn’t it? We used to have forums where people discus things and blogs where people share what they’ve learned, now it is all Reddit and discord and absolute trash in between.

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          We still have forums and blogs. Search engines just don’t both including them in search results.

          You need to know about these niche communities, which are increasingly in micro-spaces like Discord or Mastodon channels or unmonitored communities like Lemmy.

          Which is more in line with Bad Old Web 1.0 than Good Old Web 1.5

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            Discord is like gated communities on the internet. Not open to the public and not something that is publically indexed.

            It isn’t even comparable to mastadon or lemmy when it comes to being a source of information.

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            They’re there, but harder to find. And some are closing. I’ve had two or three in the last couple years that closed, in the reasonably popular world of cars.

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        It was the only search result relevant to my query.

        Paste it into archive.org’s Wayback Machine. Good odds that they’ve stored a copy. I’d do it for you and just link to the page, but you don’t list the URL…

        https://web.archive.org/

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          IME the wayback machine might give you the post body. I tend to need the comments as well, and archive.today can save all that properly. It usually isn’t saved already, so you’ll have to wait a minute or two. I just use this time to look for other sources.

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        Does anyone else remember back in the early days of the internet when experts used to say, “The internet routes around problems”.

        I miss those early days.

        To @[email protected] , I see that a lot with searches now too but I just keep searching or find some other way around the problem. There’s no way I click in to Reddit any more. You do you, but I’m saying there’s always another option.

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          Honestly the internet will route around the loss of reddit just like it did with the loss of forums and other crowdsourced platforms that have died off over time. Yeah, we will lose a treasure trove of knowledge, but a lot of it was also outdated and the same questions will be asked again so the knowledge can be rebuilt.

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        idk lately ive had more help outside it on random forums, just dont add reddit to your search, like reddit advice used to be s tier now its c tier, when you compare results from advice you get off other forums, a lot of shills, everywhere, like the webhosting related subreddits

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    I just found a Firefox extension that let’s you open these blocked pages in archive. Pretty excited to bypass the bs of VPN blocks

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        Ireland works fine here. Dunno about the shadowban, I still get answers on the occasional thread I create whenever I can’t get an answer on Lemmy. Still, fuck u/spez.

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      For what it’s worth I use PIA and have never been shadowbanned or banned using any endpoint in any country on new accounts there. I use throwaway non-gmail email accounts to segment each account so they can’t track between them, all on different VPN endpoints per account. It’s sad that this is what it takes to prevent them from stalking me.

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      Using a VPN to log into reddit can get your account shadowbanned instantly. Just an FYI to those browsing.

      What’s worse is it’s infectious. If you log into your main account on a VPN, get shadowbanned and change accounts without clearing your history, changing IP and deleting all your cookies, your next account will also get immediately shadowbanned.

      If you argue about politics, shadowban. If you make too many reports, shadowban. If you do anything on reddit that isn’t the most milquetoast, bot-like comments on media and celebrities, you will likely get banned or shadowbanned.

      The place is overrun with very convincing AI bots that even go as far as criticizing reddit to look convincing, but a large portion of users aren’t even real anymore, maybe as high as half in some communities by my reckoning.

      They don’t want human users anymore. They announced a few years ago they were using reddit as a “test bed” for new AI models, they want a site that millions of people visit every day that looks like a social media site where users can communicate, but they want to be able to control what everyone is saying and discussing with a control panel to influence public sentiment with ease, and it’s already working to fantastic effect.


      Edit: most normal, commercial internet users can reset their dynamic IP address simply by unplugging your router for a minute. Also, if you try to register a reddit account with a “throwaway” email, or even many major domains like yahoo or msn, it can start you out shadowbanned permanently. They are looking for any excuse to silence users so their bots can control the popular narrative.

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          This is just one of the commercial products too, the companies that have their own in-house tech development departments have their own proprietary systems for just creating an entire realm of content at the touch of a button.

          Want to reveal some new development to a story that didn’t exist before today? Use your content bots to manufacture a bunch of blogs and journalist tweets and news websites that look exactly like they were made 10 years ago, with links that go to supporting sources. (which you also manufactured with a few keystrokes.)

          The internet isn’t just dead, it’s a shambling corpse raised to feed off the living, animated by its undead lich overlords.

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                Observing reddit from a distance (anon accounts, anon email address, anon VPN) it’s very clear that it’s like watching the Titanic sink or the fall of Rome at this point. It’s become a complete cesspool over the last ~5 years but progressively worse at an increasing rate each year.

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        I posted stuff about politics and my account suddenly couldn’t comment. Weird error messages, no actual communication from Reddit about what or why or how long. Decisions about functionality are being made in meetings by people who are absolutely not interested in the users as anything but things whose only value is whether they can be monetized.

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          I experimented a few times with throwaway accounts and yeah, they’re locking or shadowbanning people just for engaging with politics or social issues. They don’t want humans influencing these topics, they want people to read what the bots are saying without distraction.

          Not saying literally everyone there is a bot, but they’re slowly doing a bot-creep.

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            They sent me a warning of being flagged and monitored because I upvoted a comment about Luigi. That’s how cooked reddit is now. Seriously, only upvoting “rule violating comments”, not even commenting myself. Just a button click is all it takes, and they won’t tell you which comment or post you upvoted that flagged it so it’s like walking through a mine field.

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              This is the exact arc of enshittification that Cory Doctorow described. Reddit used to be great up to a few years ago, but it’s clear that the board is in full-on vampire mode, and they’re going to bleed it dry until it’s time to parachute.

              bUt ThErE’s CuTe AlIeNs EvErYwHeRe ^ __________ ^

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        In my experience the bans have been very explicit, strangely designed to humiliate. Otherwise the same.

        My “threatening violence” comment was “Elon Musk’s fumes are fatally toxic”. Permabanned from 4 subreddits and 3 day site wide, just that exact string.

        Amazingly it appears like a pro left wing website. That is some wonderful camouflage.

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          Amazingly it appears like a pro left wing website. That is some wonderful camouflage.

          This should be making everyone with half a brain freak out right now, even though I know nobody is going to pay attention until it’s too late.

          But that website, reddit, is probably the last remaining public spaces that reflects the actual attitudes of the majority of people. (Boring lib shit, but hey better than than facebook or twitter.) So when we’re learning that this site is being hijacked by bots and corporations trying to subtly take over and replace the users so they can “adjust” the nature of popular sentiment, it’s a giant blaring air-horn of alarm that we’re about to see a massive manufactured-consent engine come to life.

          People as individuals are amazing creatures, as individuals you can talk to people and make them learn and get them curious.

          As a population? As a group? Worthless troglodytes, unevolved pond-scum, slime, oozing shit that seeks the lowest level. This is why we need to have a lot of concern over platforms that purportedly depict average people having average conversations, because as a population, people look to their peers for cues and when everyone is taking cues from a single, artificial entity made to look like millions of real people, we need to start pouring water on some servers somewhere.

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          Yep got banned for saying a politician had to be taken care of. Sure an undertone of violence. But others say they want to do plastic surgery by running over someone’s head and nothing happens. I don’t get how they enforce rules or does it just depend on which side of the political spectrum.

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            If it’s against our Presidents Musk or Trump, ban. Anyone else is less scrutinized. Pro Luigi: Ban. Pro Jan 6? Probably no ban, idk.

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    When google started to index paywalled things… I thought that was pretty evil. Showing google content but not normal internet users. Giving sites the ability to have their cake and eat it too.

    When reddit decided to force logging in to see some subreddits on mobile, I decided they were evil.

    This is why I’m on Lemmy posting content, we have to use open platforms if we want them to succeed. This is the first time I’ve used social media. I’m doing it as a civic duty

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      When google started to index paywalled things…

      Google has (had?) a rule. If a site lets them index their paywalled content, then the site must deliver the full content if the referrer is google.com or else they will de-index the site. So when clicking a link on google, the full article should appear. It was an old trick to just google the article title to find a link and click through to read a paywalled article.

      Is that policy gone now?

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        as far as i can tell that policy never existed. The first instance of this was for academic articles being indexed behind a paywall, and they NEVER worked with the referrer being google.

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          It kind of existed when Google included a link to every site’s cached content, but they removed that years ago.

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              I am surprised I didn’t even notice that, I used to use it for when sites changed or were down. I guess there’s always internet archive sites if I were so inclined, but still sad.

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    I wish there was a way to filter all sites that block me like this, at least my search would actually show results I can read

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      Sometimes part of the content can be seen in the search result page, as the crawler got the content. But when you click inside, you’re blocked by the membership wall. Irony?