Ehhhh no.
I can get behind “ban spying on me.”
I can even get behind “ban social media, especially the kind that makes you sell yourself, though pseudononymous link aggregators are less the issue.”
But “no more torrenting at work, no more reading digitally while pooping, no more encrypted chats, now have to carry a book, a camera, an mp3 player, my GBC, and a dumb phone, just to make up for the phone?”
No.
This is literally not a problem with smartphones, the problem is about the software you decide to run on it. A smartphone is simply a very powerful pocket computer.
I agree, except that we are legally not allowed to control the software on our phones in lots of cases. Notifications, ads, upgrades, etc. are all controlled by the manufacturer and it’s illegal to override their software on the device you own.
Add to that that specific pieces of software are becoming increasingly necessary to function in society, and you start to see that it’s not really a matter of individual choice, anymore than people shopping at walmart can be blamed for buying processed, sugary foods when that’s 90% of what walmart stocks (And all they promote), and walmart is the only affordable option in their community.
I’ve been able to turn off notifications for anything on my phone. Only the few apps I choose to allow still give me notifications.
I am fortunate to have a job that does not require a cell phone, I can leave it behind for hours at a time without affecting my work. I know this is not the case for everyone, but it should be an option.
At the very least, a phone required for work should have a separate phone number and email account, and should turn off automatically after the employee clocks out for the day. Some countries already have laws about this stuff, we should do that more.
Do it anyway. I use adb to modify my phone and make it suck less. I also look forward to the day (if it ever comes) where Linux phones are a viable replacement option.
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Perhaps the actual answer is for people to learn self control.
That will never work, nobody has discipline anymore
Ok buddy Marcus Aurelius
I’m just making commentary bud. Multiple times in the city I’ve seen people nearly get hit by busses because they cross the street nose deep in their phone without looking up. Some people can’t come unglued for 10 seconds to look both ways before crossing a busy roadway in a bus plaza, it’s kind of crazy!
Smartphones make us more social, allowing us to reach each other ad hoc, not just by planning the meeting for a week. They makes us more free by providing helping tools like GPS and similar. They make us happier by helping to kill time while standing in the line or riding on the bus.
You’re doing something wrong.
Social media has replaced and ruined real human interaction.
You realize you’re on social media right now?
You realized I said “replaced”?
So you used to hang out with your friends and share articles and comment on them in person then upvote/downvote and moderate? ok sure whatever you say…
So you used to hang out with your friends
Yes
And what does it have to do with smartphones? You think that “social media” is “antisocial”? Well, then write it as “ban social media”. Be precise with formulations.
And what does it have to do with smartphones?
You said they make us “more social”. I said they don’t.
You think that “social media” is “antisocial”? Well, then write it as “ban social media”
Also acceptable.
Not all social media. But we know what you are talking about. The clout culture and instant gratification is what ruining them.
Banning one would only create thousands of copycats. And don’t think they won’t come here, if Lemmy, Mastodon or Pixelfed gets popular.
smartphones are one of rhe hundreds o things that would probably be just fine and good if it weren’t for capitalism
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classic lemmy
Greed isn’t limited to any one economic system, I fear.
Seems more like a power thing but I guess that’s greed too
There is no other economic system.
And “greed” isn’t really the problem with capitalism. It’s more about the violent deprivation of human needs in order to exploit people for the extreme privilege of a tiny minority. Etc.
There is no other economic system.
If lemmy.ml could read this, they’d be very upset.
No, they’d just laugh at the morons
I’m perfectly fine switching back to a “feature phone” aka dump phone that takes phone calls and sends texts. If it also could be used as a music/podcast playiner, that’d be great too.
Social media, algorithms and echo chambers they create are 80% of the problem degrading societies.
You mean it’s not the genocide, exploitation, imperialism, etc? It’s just social media? Peak capitalist apologism.
You understand that social media helps create and reinforce those things right? Social media has lead to the fall of America into fascism. It might have if social media didn’t exist but this rise in fascism is directly related to social media and the way that it fucks with peoles heads.
Why is the left so intent on becoming Luddites? What the fuck is this timeline?
I don’t think it’s “the left” as a whole but the literal Luddites would definitely have been considered part of it.
There’s just going to be some overlap in the anti-capitalist Venn diagram on these issues.
Because luddism is good. But this article aint it.
No it isn’t. Technology is the evolutionary adaptation of humanity. It would be like a tiger cutting off its claws, or a rabbit breaking its own legs.
This left wing Luddite attitude is simply fueled by fucking tribalism because it wasn’t really anywhere to be found until the tech bros turned republican.
If you ban smartphones you better make a better replacement portable pc in the palm of my hand then.
Pocket PCs were a thing. I loved them.
There are 6, 7 and 8 inch laptops available for all the on-the-go computing you need.
I’m pretty far down the luddite/makhaevist wormhole… But this is just a garbage idea.
All claims and no reasoning.
But people clicked it, and it’s the only thing that matters. Of course banning smartphones completely is a stupid idea, but it’s a wild claim that draws attention.
There really is an XKCD for everything.
No. If you wanna ditch the Internet, go right ahead.
can we just ban people in general instead?
Now we’re getting closer to the root. 👍
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Even better, let’s make being happy mandatory.
Done. What’s next on my list?
