Biologically, tomatoes are fruit. Culinarily, tomatoes are vegetables.
Vocally, they’re baritones.
Ideally they are makeshift weed pipes
I dunno, even in a culinary sense, tomatoes are way too acidic to lump in with vegetables imo. The textures are totally different from veggies too
Which veggies? Eggplant, zucchini, and potatoes all have very different textures.
The difference is in flavor. Veggies are savory and fruits are sweet.
First, eggplants and zucchini are fruits too, and both are sweet, just not banana-sweet (in fact, try zucchini bread if you haven’t - best shit ever). Second, many veggies are sweet, like carrots, onions (though it’s masked until cooked), and …uh… sweet potatoes. Third, good tomatoes are absolutely sweet, not like candy but especially the little salad tomatoes aren’t very far removed from a grape, which I think we agree are a fruit. Then there’s olives, that bizarrely savory, dark fruit. They’re delicious but I’m pretty sure they’re from another planet.
So overall I think, if we’re going to go by flavor, then imo acidity is the least ambiguous differentiator. Still not perfect, I’d rather just call it a fruit if it has seeds and isn’t a pod. I’ll give it to you on texture though
I don’t think vegetable sounds right either. No one crushes up broccoli or carrots to make sauce for pizza and you don’t add tomatoes to your roast veggies.
People put carrots in pizza sauce, like Rao’s: https://www.raos.com/products/pizza-sauce
And roasted tomatoes are great with some peppers and onions.
Peppers are fruit too
Yup, but also a vegetable.
Yeah, thanks nature for not adequately distinguishing between fruits and vegetables by cooking techniques!
Sometimes, you can be such a cunt, nature.
I love playing around with recipes so have indeed made broc and carrot sauces, but this is kind of all about what feels right to say. And I think that there’s a lot of cases where it feels wrong to describe tomato as a vegetable. Kind of how I’d feel odd calling lettuce a vegetable.
Okay but if someone offered me a pizza with broccoli or carrot sauce I’d have to politely, but firmly refuse
Your definition of vegetable is “cannot be used as base for pizza sauce”? Oddly specific.
The whole basis for calling it a vegetable is “I don’t want to call it a fruit” so let’s not get too pedantic here.
Not sure where I said that, I was referring to nachorella’s comment up thread. If you want to know my definition, it’s pretty much aligned with the science definition. Fruits: the parts of the plant containing seeds (with the exception of pods). Vegetables: the rest of the plant (including pods)
Tomatos are a made up by Italians to sell more “tomato” sauce.
I see the image must have been cropped off to the right
Ones a culinary term, the other is a biology term.
The problem with the culinary term “vegetable” is that, properly, it applies to any edible part of a plant, and improperly, it’s basically a useless distinction.
Knowledge is knowing tomato is a fruit.
Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
This is how I always explain the difference between INT and WIS to RPG newbies. It gets the point across really well.
If I ever see one of you fuckers put a tomato in a fruit salad I will shit your pants
It’s called salsa.
prosecutors will be violated.
Are you going to go shit in their pants?
do you know how this meme or bell curves work? should be the dummy saying vegetable, the majority saying fruit, and the genius (on the right…) saying it’s a vegetable
Guess we just know different people then
Why would the genius say something wrong like that? Tomatoes are fruit - grows on the vine, contains seeds inside it, fruits regularly without destroying the parent plant.
shut up nerd!
The genius would be saying that because the genius understands that when this question is asked, it only makes sense from a culinary viewpoint, not a biological one
Tomatoes are berries, even
The effective vibe is much more important than any underlying biology.
Tomatoes are vegetables.
I’ve always heard it’s intelligence that tells us tomatoes are fruit, but wisdom tells to use it like a vegetable in cooking
I always heard it as intelligence tells us tomatoes are fruit, wisdom tells us not to use it in a fruit salad.
Salsa is a fruit salad.
The left one should say “fruits”, while the right one should say “fruit”
Errbuddy wanna talk about tomatoes but the real question is, are bananas fruit? Some varietals are sweet and clearly belong in desserts and fruit salads, some are savory and starchy like potatoes, depending on the culinary tradition you come from they’re used in both contexts, and they can and should have seeds but they don’t due to selective breeding. Tomatoes exist in an ambiguous state, but bananas are somehow both at all times.
Bananas are technically berries, which makes them a fruit. I don’t think I’ve ever heard of anyone think of a banana as a non-fruit before
Plantains are bananas (same species, different varietals) and in many cultures are used in savory contexts
Oh yeah, I forgot about those. Funnily enough, here in Spain bananas are plátanos and plantains are bananas
ahem different models for different circumstances.
“Vegetables” makes no sense.
Tomatoes, grapes, apples, cucumber, pumpkin, eggplant, mushrooms, all fruits.
I was with you until mushrooms, those ain’t even plants
We are talking about “fruits” here which isnt even a term used to describe plants. Maybe in english, not in german.
mushrooms are not fruits in any sense. Fruiting body is applied colloquially however since spores are not fruits this is also incorrect.
However much like with calling a tomato a fruit, it’s perfectly clear to call the penis loo lookin’ thing a fruiting body and only derranged pedants are bothered by it.
Fruits are a specific part of the plant, the seed-bearing part (pods and ferns are the exceptions, I guess). Veggies are the rest of the plant. Mushrooms are fungi’s and all, don’t get me wrong, but they’re not plants
Technically a fruit, taste like a vegetable.
I argue anyone who doesn’t think tomatoes taste like fruit hasn’t had a real tomato yet
All fruits are vegetables, so everyone is right.
