And if they were the “suspects,” it would have been much, much worse. She might have never seen her children again. Not because she did anything wrong or there was anything wrong with her visa, but just because they’d written her name down and decided today was her day.
I was reacting purely to the “fortunately.” Basically saying, I am not bothered if they want to start to escalate the bans. I will whine about it here and then move on with whatever I was doing.
As long as they were not fired…
I owned a computer for a while for which the standard startup procedure involved smacking it hard on the top to make sure everything was seated right.
Back then everything was made of metal, and it was an ugly white color, and we hit our computers if they weren’t doing what we wanted. We all knew what our ports and IRQs were. It was great days.
CRT, yes. I really hope that static electricity was the explanation honestly. I sort of always assumed that it was just tilting it forward jiggled something around back into place, something stupid like that, but they swore that was the only thing that worked. It would please me greatly to think that they were right and the dragging across carpet was actually a vital component that they had figured out.
Me: So, what rating from 0 to 10 would you give this response just in terms of raw coherence and how much sense it makes?
Claude: I’ll rate the response’s coherence and how much sense it makes on a scale of 0 to 10.
Looking at the response to the original message, I’d give it a coherence rating of 3/10.
The response has several issues that make it difficult to follow:
Thank you for using coherence-bot, come again.
In college, a friend of mine had a TV whose picture would mess up every so often, and the solution was to take it in the hallway and drag up and then back down the hall by the power cord. Then, when set up again, it would work again.
There was never an explanation, that I know of, for why. Presumably there was some simpler method that would have achieved the same result but no one was interested in that.
% wget -O /dev/null https://ponder.cat/pictrs/image/de2c8167-28e6-4550-a436-385802cd445d.png
--2025-04-28 20:24:48-- https://ponder.cat/pictrs/image/de2c8167-28e6-4550-a436-385802cd445d.png
Resolving ponder.cat (ponder.cat)... 2a02:4780:f:5977::1, 141.136.42.129
Connecting to ponder.cat (ponder.cat)|2a02:4780:f:5977::1|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: unspecified [image/png]
Saving to: ‘/dev/null’
/dev/null [ <=> ] 63.77K --.-KB/s in 0.1s
2025-04-28 20:24:49 (653 KB/s) - ‘/dev/null’ saved [65297]
shrug
It works for me. Want to try that command and see what it tells you?
I looked in the logs, and the only thing I see that could be what you’re talking about is some HTTP 400 and 499 errors. I have no idea what that’s about, it could be a server bug or at a guess it could be some weird interaction with some router in between that’s doing something odd? If it’s affecting both Sync and the web app? I don’t even know if it’s you, that’s just the only thing I can see on my end.
I feel like you are vastly overestimating how much I care about being banned from this type of place.
If I go and start talking to the Young Republicans, and they tell me I have to adjust the things I’m saying to match what’s going to make them comfortable and then physically eject me when I don’t, as far as I’m concerned that means I was making good sense. If I stopped because I didn’t want them to kick me out, that would be a problem.
some kind of bad faith trolling, flamebait
Absolutely not.
The point that I was making is that systematized fake participation in online forums has been developed and polished to an incredible grade of effectiveness in the modern era. I don’t think that’s as widely known as it should be, but among practitioners in the field it’s absolutely common knowledge and has been for a while, because of Russia primarily.
I do understand that some people have a strong negative reaction to hearing that. That’s not my problem and it doesn’t mean that me talking about that is “trolling.” I just thought it was kind of funny that, at least in the headline, these guys were saying they were testing whether it could be made effective when it is already extremely obvious to experts in the field that it’s extremely effective and these researchers have quite a bit of catching up to do. And, in fact, the voting of every single one of the lemmy.ml users except the mod who sanctioned it seemed to indicate it was taken in the same way it was intended: Relevant commentary wrapped up with a little bit of humor.
Again, I do understand that certain people in authority on Lemmy tend to throw massive hissy fits about anyone who comes in and frames things in a way they don’t want to hear. That doesn’t mean the hissy fit becomes my fault, or my problem, or that me posting it meant I was aiming for that to happen. I do get that it doesn’t take some crazy extrapolation to think the point of my post was “lol Russia sucks amirite,” but honestly, in this case, it wasn’t.
Shocked you weren’t permabanned from that instance long ago.
Me too tbh. I’m not trying to extraneously do anything offensive, but I don’t think it is good practice to adjust your opinions so you won’t be banned by the opinion police, so I don’t, which to some instances / communities here seems to create this constant recurring crisis.
Actually I do feel like people constantly griping about how ban-happy Lemmy.ml is has had a certain positive impact on how ban-happy they are willing to be. Which is more or less how it’s supposed to work, when the social contract and networks of respect and criticism are intact.
Remember when reporters were giving George W a hard time because literally no one else in the world wanted to invade Iraq with us, and he looked all smug and said “You forgot Poland!” and then everyone made fun of him for that for the next year and a half?
Edit: It’s not “don’t forget Poland” apparently
.ml doesn’t hold the largest communities for anything. You know who has more MAU than Lemmy.ml? [email protected] and [email protected].
They have retconned it now as “we never wanted to be the flagship instance” since most of the world has decided that they’re ridiculous but I have a hard time believing that was the plan. As with most authoritarians, their plan was to keep their iron grip on all the little feeble people under their control and expand it out to more and more people, and they’re just confused when it’s not popular for anyone who’s not already trapped inside isn’t psyched about coming over and joining up.
Edit: Out of curiosity, I went to join-Lemmy.org and told it I wanted to join a server, English speaking, anywhere in the world, focused on politics. Its first recommendation was szmer.info. Second one was Lemmy.ml.
Are you saying I was being silly?
You might be onto something
This is screaming for someone to ham it up with some new signs. I would be pretty surprised if no one’s done it inside a week.
They wouldn’t have to be at the White House, although that would also be entertaining. It could just be the same format and posted literally anywhere.
Okay, so way back when, Google needed a way to install and administer 500 new instances of whatever web service they had going on without it being a nightmare. So they made a little tool to make it easier to spin up random new stuff easily and scriptably.
So then the whole rest of the world said “Hey Google’s doing that and they’re super smart, we should do that too.” So they did. They made Docker, and for some reason that involved Y Combinator giving someone millions of dollars for reasons I don’t really understand.
So anyway, once Docker existed, nobody except Google and maybe like 50 other tech companies actually needed to do anything that it was useful for (and 48 out of those 50 are too addled by layoffs and nepotism to actually use Borg / K8s/ Docker (don’t worry they’re all the the same thing) for its intended purpose.) They just use it so their tech leads can have conversations at conferences and lunches where they make it out like anyone who’s not using Docker must be an idiot, which is the primary purpose for technology as far as they’re concerned.
But anyway in the meantime a bunch of FOSS software authors said “Hey this is pretty convenient, if I put a setup script inside a Dockerfile I can literally put whatever crazy bullshit I want into it, like 20 times more than even the most certifiably insane person would ever put up with in a list of setup instructions, and also I can pull in 50 gigs of dependencies if I want to of which 2,421 have critical security vulnerabilities and no one will see because they’ll just hit the button and make it go.”
And so now everyone uses Docker and it’s a pain in the ass to make any edits to the configuration or setup and it’s all in this weird virtualized box, and the “from scratch” instructions are usually out of date.
The end
As is often the case, the behavior they are telling you you MUST not do, and they will NOT stand for and you definitely will suffer for it, is what they’re afraid of.
At some point the public opinion will hit critical mass at the street and individual level. Maybe (and maybe not). There is a reason they always want to get out of the area as soon as possible, and have stopped wearing identifiable uniforms.
I have no idea whether a group of ICE agents getting mobbed by an angry crowd that outnumbers them 20-to-1 will be a good thing or a bad thing, if things do reach a point where that happens. I legitimately don’t know. It’s definitely better than no one doing anything until they’ve escalated to filling up all these detention centers they’ve been building with people who mentioned “protest” on Facebook. Also, certainly, them threatening retaliation against people who are showing signs in that direction is a real and dangerous threat.
I’m just saying there is a reason they are calling out judges and bystanders as the threat that they MUST shut down. It’s because it is by far the most easy and reliable undoing to their power. It means a lot more than the Supreme Court, honestly, at the end of the day.
Precisely. Like I said, I always do me.
You picked which bus to ride on, you don’t get to complain now that it’s full of dingbats and losers and going somewhere you don’t want to go. There are people who lost much more than their jobs, and you were happy as a clam with that and wanted to create more of them on your side of the border. And so, out you go.