Democrats said the same thing during his first term yet rolled back very little of what he did. Like someone said in another thread, do you think Democrats are going to fire all of these ice agents that Trump brought on when they regain control, or that they are going to restore the gerrymandered districts and states? That’s how the Democrat ratchet effect works. The Republicans shift everything to the right and Democrats prevented from slipping back

The peace prize was gaslighting

Prior to Trump’s second term Biden increased ICE funding to their highest levels and accelerated the building of ICE detention centers across the country.

You say that as if voters have any impact on policies. Propaganda has convinced them there are only 2 options so they pick the one they think is left wing.

Do they win elections though? When they do nothing with that win other than shift further to the right and lock in right wing policy with their ratchet effect, it’s not a win but a capitulation

I didn’t say trump was better, any fool that subscribes to lesser evil bullshit thought trump was better. It was your party that chose not to primary the candidate no one wanted in office, who’s mental incapacity could no longer be dismissed as a stutter. Trump is a self inflicted wound that liberals refuse to take blame for.

They have no balls to ever do the right thing and abandon the oligarchy,

It’s the DNC that prefers trump, he allows them to keep shifting to the right while voters accept it without question. 2010 Democrats could never imagine aligning with someone like Dick Cheney, but 2024 democrats did without question. Your party is officially first term trump Republicans

The only difference is liberals are busy at brunch when a Democrat is in office and they don’t pay attention to what’s going on. Who gave ICE the largest increase of federal funding they’ve ever received and expanded detention center construction? Who oversaw the largest increase of homeless? Who had the power to stop a genocide in Gaza and did nothing but deny a genocide was occurring? Democrats overall support Trump’s actions they just don’t like how they are being carried out, they prefer their fascism covert.

I never implied trump was better, he’s the exact same type politician.

Trump has been Obama and Biden’s legacy. Liberal failure to hold their own party accountable has led to people like Trump. Despite all of Trump’s deportations he has still not topped the number of people Obama deported nor has he denied due process to the same number of people that Obama denied. The bombing of fisherman is about oil, the same cause of all the bombings in the ME. This is what Democrats voted for by allowing their party to turn into right wing reactionaries

Policy wise they are barely left of Republicans and if we overlaid today’s political scale and that from 1980, Democrats would be to the far right of Reagan.

Non voters and socialists didn’t put trump in power, Democrats refusing to acknowledge their part in helping their party shift to the right and never holding them accountable did that. Democrats openly embraced right wing war criminals, zionists, and blowing Republicans dog whistles regarding guns did that

One can’t rise to power without the other. Liberals shifting to the right and ratcheting that position in to prevent it from slipping back is what’s created the current worldwide political situation.

It’s not even 2 parties, it is 2 factions of capitalism ensuring they keep a stranglehold on society

In the last elections there were several candidates and parties that ran under a socialist or a communist party.

Not right wing reactionaries like Democrats and Republicans.

putting Democrats against Democrats

What are you talking about, this is a communist community. We are not Democrats, we don’t support Democrats, we don’t vote for Democrats.

The oligarchy will always pacify the public with breadcrumbs so they don’t demand better.

The ACA is trash