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      All these AI and machine learning companies are taking content directly from websites and ignoring robot.txt files.

      If your content is able to be crawled, even without being listed on search engines, I don’t think it really matters.

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        It might help proof an AI company against legal issues that might be brought about by their using the content. If they’re ever sued by Automattic, then they can just point to the deal and say that they bought the data from them. There’s much less ambiguity.

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    I work in marketing, and every client I work with who has a WordPress website is using AI to write a lot of their content. This is going to lead to circularly trained AI for sure.

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    I’m assuming this just relates to WordPress.com rather than the open-source WordPress.org but it’s still a bummer. I’ve worked with the open source platform for over a dozen years and have started to kinda loathe what it’s turned into but I’m not sure I’m yet at the point where I’m ready to migrate a bunch of sites to something else. This could be that push if they keep going down this road.

    God, am I getting too old for this shit? I’m a pretty technical person but this AI nonsense is just relentless. I’m not philosophically against the idea of AI as like any tool it has the potential to better the world, but every tech company and their dog are going all in on using it for commercial bullshit that seems to provide very little value to society. Even fucking Mozilla is going in that direction.

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      Mozilla seems more towards local and privacy preserving AI Dev, no? Both are really lacking in the space IMHO

      Like I’m not interested in what the collective of digital knowledge looks like behind several corporate filters and giant rent seeking moat.

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        True, and I get that realistically they do need to diversify away from Firefox … but it still feels bandwagoney to me given that seemingly every tech company (and Wendy’s) are piling into the AI train all at once. Like I said, though, I think I’m just getting too old for this.

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          They were already making some good work in the field before but they trended away from it.

          Honestly it just seems like they struggle with follow through.

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      It’s the new NFTs and Crypto but it’s not blatantly a scam so the companies that skipped out on those sure as shit will be hoping onto AI

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      I don‘t really know what to say to cheer you up. Industrial revolutions are as important and exciting as they are painful, even dreadful to many. I’ve seen no signs of this one being different. There will be a lot of losers before we can expect wide spread benefits for society from it. The current working class will suffer great losses and will have to fight so another can reap the benefits later.

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    Shit like this should be opt in by default. But no. Instead of respecting the users they count on ignorance, forgetfulness, and obfuscation for this kind of fuckery.

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    Not only am I really glad to not be on tumblr, but this further shows I shouldn’t use wordpress for my website even though there is an opensource version

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    Well, time to delete my Wordpress account then. Gonna be a lot of content I gotta archive before then. ;-;

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    To complicate matters even further, advertising content that isn’t even owned by Automattic, including ads from an old Apple Music campaign, has also reportedly made its way into the training data set.

    The plans at Automattic have been so controversial internally, that a product manager has even started pulling his own photos off Tumblr to make sure they’re not used to train AI, according to 404.

    Generative AI has become a big business ever since OpenAI first launched ChatGPT in late 2022 and text-prompt image creators soon followed from a number of companies.

    But major publishers have complained, with some even filing lawsuits, alleging that much of the data used to train these systems was either pirated or doesn’t constitute “fair use” under existing copyright regimes.

    In response to emailed questions on Tuesday, Automattic directed Gizmodo to a new post that more or less confirmed 404 Media’s reporting, while trying to sell the move to consumers as an opportunity to “give you more control over the content you’ve created.”

    We also plan to take that a step further and regularly update any partners about people who newly opt-out and ask that their content be removed from past sources and future training.”


    The original article contains 536 words, the summary contains 201 words. Saved 62%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    I wish I had content and data to sell :(

    Oh, wait, I do. But companies are already selling it :(

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    All of this is predicated on having some company that can afford to pay and wants this data. Or, the next tech bubble will just be VCs throwing money at AI companies training their models on the old internet.

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    I wonder if there is a text equivalent of Glaze and Nightshade, to perform adversarial attacks on AI scraping the text.

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    Funny how all of these social media platforms that were so happy to describe themselves as “the public town square of the internet” or whatever are now claiming that they own everything that everyone ever posted. So, which is it? Because it obviously cannot be both.

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    Can someone please outline the main reasons people are upset with these sites for choosing to do this?

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      There are 3 very important things that have to be respected when using someone’s work. Consent, credit, and compensation. The data is being taken without the consent of users, they’re not being credited for anything, and they don’t receive so much as a cent in exchange.