Either my searching is wrong, or there’s a weird sub name out there….but I find it perplexing that us nerds haven’t made a big gaming sub yet?
I’ve seen a lemmy world one, a pcgaming on kbin, a beehaw one that’s mostly dead….but no big boi general one?
I’ve blocked 3 fuck cars communities just this evening but I nary see any gaming posts in my ALL - active/hot.
Weird. Someone point me in the right direction please 😅
The biggest c/gaming was on beehaw, but that’s defederated. Maybe nobody else wanted to do it again and just stuck to smalller communities based on particular systems.
Wait what? I can still view the gaming beehaw just fine
Federation can be a one way street. The problem with that is your comments and votes will only be visible from the instance you did it from. Lemmy.world will show other Lemmy.world users your comment but Beehaw will not ever see it, which means your comment will not proliferate to other instances either.
You can still browse content from an instance that has defederated yours but your actions will only be visible on your own instance.
This is a big roadblock for lemmy. There needs to be a clear indication that an instance is defederated from the community you’re posting to and that doesn’t currently exist.
A instance can make a decision thst it’s users aren’t aware of without some kind of marker.
unfortunately it’s not as easy as that. defederation isn’t meant to be fun. but a last resort. for example if people do illegal stuff on one instance, you want to defederate them WITHOUT having their link and instance name kept around everywhere. But you’re right. We still need a good technical solution for that.
You can’t stop a user from cross instance subscribing, so if a lemmy.ml user subscribes to ! Antisemitic@bob’s-racist-emporium.lemmy.wtf before it’s defederated, it should be immediately clear if posting across instances will have no effect to the posting user.
A real world for instance is that I have a subscribe pending to [email protected] thst is either stuck or not being accepted. I’ve made posts before realizing that lemmy.ml is not federating with that instance and had no idea so I’ve been contributing to the ether.
The instances that are federated with one another I believe are publicly listed, somewhere. From there it would be fairly straightforward to create a tool that tells you whether your instance is “compatible” with the one you’re interacting with.
Anyone good at coding? Sounds like a project. Make one and add it to the list that I’m sure is also out there somewhere. If there are such useful things, they should be added to all the sidebars and made common knowledge.
This is honestly very confusing.
When I originally decided to join a lemmy community I signed up with beehaw.org and was accepted. During the reddit apocalypse I also registered for lemmy.world
From my understanding, and someone please treat me like I’m a 5 year old, when I view [email protected] via my lemmy.world account I only see old beehaw user posts (from before de-federation) and every lemmy.world user post but only lemmy.world users can see my posts? However, if I view from my beehaw account I can see all posts from lemmy.world and beehaw users but only beehaw users can see my posts?
Does this extend to comments? If I comment on a lemmy.world user’s post through my beehaw account… that OP just won’t ever see it?
Yes. Beehaw blocks lemmy.world (lw), but not vice versa.
Therefore, a lw user can see all new beehaw content, but any interaction - commenting or voting, will not get back to beehaw, and so it can’t federate them to other instances either. So anything a lw user does on beehaw is only visible to other lw users.
Beehaw users can only see lw content from before when beehaw defederated from lw, but should be able to interact with it normally, except for other lw users like in the last paragraph.
I think you’re mistaken.
A LW user does NOT see new beehaw content. If I visit [email protected] on my LW account and sort by new… the newest post is 2d old from an infosec.pub user and the next newest is 4d from a LW user. However, if I visit [email protected] from my beehaw account there’s at least a dozen+ NEW posts from the last 24 hours, mostly from beehaw users.
But that kind of shows my point, it’s confusing. I think the simplest way to think of it (again, very layman understanding that could be wrong). LW users on [email protected] can only see posts and comments from non-beehaw users but the vast majority of the users/posts on that channel are from beehaw.
So non-local communities from (one-way) de-federated instances are basically mod-less spaces where users from federated instances can interact with eachother?
E.g. LW users and infosec users can create posts and comments on lemmy.world/c/[email protected], but the mods from beehaw.org/c/gaming have no power and don’t even see it, since they are disconnected.
Why did they defederate?
Beehaw had concerns about lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works because they had open registrations, rather than requiring an application process like they and some other instances do.
The idea is that users being able to join these instances freely meant they couldn’t be properly “vetted” to weed out the trolls/racists/harassers/etc., and they didn’t believe they had the infrastructure/moderation capability to properly monitor the scale of this new audience themselves.
Part of me gets it, but in hindsight it does seem like the concerns were a bit overblown (at least compared to actual bad instances like exploding heads) and I’m surprised they haven’t refederated by now. Beehaw staying defederated from two other major instances is proof that it actually does matter which Lemmy instance you register for, making it harder for new users to figure out which one they should join.