I just can’t find a decent email client that looks like it’s from the last 20 years. Geary and Evolution both appear to be pretty modern but something about using Gmail with a Yubikey just doesn’t work and neither of them will connect to my account. Both on Fedora and OpenSUSE. Thunderbird works but it’s so old fashioned and Betterbird doesn’t look much better. What’s everyone else using?
Thunderbird is very nice and lightweight compared with outlook. Picks up email settings more quicker and is much simpler to use than outlook. Recommended to all my clients.
If exchange servers and outlook.com weren’t total dickheads about their very special and proprietary Auth methods I’d literally never use outlook as a client
Thunderbird. Idk what you mean by old fashioned. It works fine, and you can style it with gtk themes.
On Android I use K-9 Mail, which looks modern to me.
I mean everyone has their preferences, but personally I don’t use email clients because I want to look at something pretty—I use them to read my emails. Thunderbird mostly matching my gtk theme is more than enough for me.
I don’t know if you were aware of this but K-9 Mail has joined up with the thunderbird developers and will at some point transition to thunderbird for mobile devices
Woah, that’s cool. Yeah I had never heard that but I’ve read the K-9 blog posts about it now. From the sounds of it, K-9 Mail is just going to continue developing along the same trajectory they were going on but are just going to change the branding to Thunderbird. Which is cool with me.
I flip flop between emacs and Thunderbird I use protonmail and both work great Integration with protonmail calendar and drive either is poor or non existant, but I don’t use/care about those features anyway
aerc with mbsync and msmtp and neovim for composing
Do you use it for work or personal? I have aerc installed and working for my personal email, but I found it harder to sort through HTML emails as quickly as something like Gmail. I gave up on it after a couple days, but really liked the keyboard-centric workflow.
I don’t work but I use a script using w3m to print HTML as text. You can find those in the aerc repo.
Thunderbird. Being on Plasma, I would use Kontact / KMail but it randomly refuses to send emails for me.
Trying to get the hang of meli on my laptop & K-9 on (unGoogled) Android
Def proton mail. I was using spark for my other accounts and it was pretty good. Then i got a new phone and never downloaded it agIn and i use the stock ios app.
Thunderbird and K-9 (which will soon be Thunderbird mobile). I’m not a Thunderbird Stan or anything, but I was running into issues with Claws, Seamonkey, and Fairmail
Using Evolution for nearly a decade now.
Cannot say anything about using it with a Yubikey.
Concerning Evolution: It never let me down, always worked and is comparatively lightweight.
Thunderbird was quite slow/heavy/memory hungry many years back. KMail ate my emails, failed at integration of GMail accounts etc etc etc. In the past I also liked Sylpheed, but AFAIK it doesn’t have any OAUTH support etc. by now.
When nothing big changes, I guess only Thunderbird and Evolution are good investments, because they seem to be the only clients which are stable now and have enough users/active developers to not disappear randomly.
I use Thunderbird and I don’t think it looks old, specially after recent updates. You can also change the colors which is pretty cool.
Don’t know if this has been said but you are not supposed to use the yubikey on your mail client. Google recommends you use an application password for email clients. As someone who has 5 yubikeys for different services I know this sounds unsafe but is the only way I’ve been able to use some of the mail programs with Google. The other option would be to enable another 2fa (maybe auth codes with Yubico Authenticator) and use that on the mail programs.
For Google I ended up using web client and fido2 (and another yubikey as backup and another as auth code generator) and my work requires Outlook but they also ask me to change passwords each month and input them on different platforms that don’t support f2 and that breaks a few things for me so I opted for Yubico Auth and use my yubikey instead of Microsoft Authenticator or Google Authenticator.
If anyone knows a client that can snooze mail on Proton and Gmail, I’d love to know about it. Until then I’m stuck using the web interfaces and their official phone apps.
I’m curious, how does snoozing help? First I’ve heard of the concept so I’m wondering if I’m missing out.
I found this addon for Thunderbird. Not sure if it’s the kind of thing that will help.
My goal every day is to end the (work)day with an empty inbox. I reply to or act on messages that I can, and I snooze messages I can’t yet handle to a later date when I expect to be able to.
An empty inbox then means I’ve handled everything I could and will be reminded of everything I couldn’t yet.
I think the issue with mailmindr is that it works completely independently from the web and phone app snooze functions. Messages “snoozed” with mailmindr would not be resurfaced when not using Thunderbird which sadly makes it a no go for me. I don’t think there is really a solution to that at this time.
I’ve been wanting something too! What I really want is something that interfaces natively with Exchange server as well as integrated inbox for multiple accounts.
The one product that exists is Blue Mail which is pretty nice except that half its functionality is broken. I’ve been in contact with their support multiple times over many months and eventually they just gave up. Its functionality is limited by arbitrary glitches and unknown limitations which they simply don’t want to bother fixing.
Thunderbird is working on enabling exchange, and meanwhile you can combine it with TBSync plus its provider for exchange AcriveSync extensions. And given TB hadn’t care so far about tray, to at least avoid TB dying by mistake, you can also add Minimize on Close extension. Mail would still be IMap, so it’ll work as long as the outlook provider enables IMap support, but for the company I work it’s enabled. But such support is coming up on TB. Not sure if its solution would be 100% open source, but I hope it is, otherwise, I’m not sure if everyone will want to have a blob proprietary binary inside TB…
That’s interesting that they’re working on it now. But I guess better late than never. Anyway I’ll check it out, thanks!
gnus on emacs
