There is literally 0 chance the area I live in will be blue. Does me going out and voting actually do anything besides add to the popular vote tally?
Vote anyway. Voter apathy is largely how things got so bad.
I’m in a similarly red state. I know my vote probably isn’t going to matter (thanks,
ObamaElectoral College), but I’m going to do it anyway. And I’m trying to get as many people around me out to vote as well.I know my vote probably isn’t going to matter (thanks, Obama Electoral College)
Unironically we can assign some blame to Obama…
In 08 he had the opportunity to “save” the DNC. Instead he viewed the entire concept as outdated and ignored the party, instead handling everything internally on his team
If Obama (or more recently Biden) had worked on the DNC and tried to build it up after Hillary’s people burnt it all down (once in 08, again in 16) we wouldnt have had to suffer thru trump and would be seeing the end of a.progressive presidents second term right now.
If he’d have done that and lived up to 08 campaign promises, then there probably wouldn’t be any “red states” left by now.
Obama didn’t break the party, but he had a chance to fix an already broken party and instead just ignored it. We’re still paying for it
This post is kind of like when somebody who doesn’t know anything about cars starts throwing out words like carburator, transmission, and alternator because they know those are car things, but they have no idea how to use them in the context of how they are actually relevant.
It’s hard to begin to know how to tackle correcting anything because the amount of effort it would take to unweave and reconstruct the kernels of truth is like trying to extract an egg out of a fully baked cake.
This is probably overly harsh considering the slant of the post is absolutely in the right spirit, the analysis is just completely broken.
Will you just stop man? Jesus fucking Christ with the “everything is the fault of democrats” bullshit.
Be less obvious.
Holy mental backflips to change talk about the electoral college to talk about the DNC and act as if they’re the same.
Are you not aware of how since 2016 the DNC has used “victory funds” that “share” donations with state parties and that has lead to Republicans solidifying power in red states and using that power to maintain it thru things like gerrymandering and voter suppression? And that those things exacerbate existing issues with electoral college?
But during the three-month period when the DNC was working to spin the situation, state parties kept less than one half of one percent of the $82 million raised through the arrangement — validating concerns raised by campaign finance watchdogs, state party allies and Bernie Sanders supporters.
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/dnc-leak-clinton-team-deflected-state-cash-concerns-226191
That program is still around. Today it’s known as the Biden Victory Fund.
But there is about a million going to each state and 90 to Joe so far. So it is a little better…
And the backflips continue! That is not the electoral college.
Dude never has any idea what he’s talking about.
You should go vote if for no other reason than to keep Sherrod Brown in his seat.
And honestly nobody knows what’s actually going to happen in this election. Ohio is “red” (god I hate that terminology) only by a few points. It’s flippable in the right circumstances. Like if people remember that MAGA wants to force 10 year old rape victims to have their attacker’s baby.
This is a numbers and momentum game. If you vote AND some of your fellow closeted Midwestern Democrats (or at least pro small-d democracy) vote and convince some people who want to have a chance to fix American democracy to vote for the Democratic nominee, Ohio could flip.
They all could. If there were justice in the world, all 50 states would be “blue” on November 5th because of who Trump is, what he’s done in the past, and what he’s telling us he’ll do in the future.
Vote!
Other than helping you sleep at night, probably not. That’s enough reason to do it though.
It’ll stay red if people don’t vote
Voting gives you the right to complain. If you don’t vote, you lose that right.
I’m also from Ohio. Your vote counts. Besides the tally, elections are about statistics. One of those statistics is trajectory. People who run campaigns take notice. One thing to understand about Ohio politics is that when voted on individually “blue” ideas pass. Abortion access, recreational marijuana, anti gerrymandering but candidates lose. This tells me it’s possible for Dems to win in Ohio, they just suck at getting their message across
Ohio is purple too though. It can go both ways as generations shift.
Every vote for Biden in Steubenville is another vote that somebody in Cleveland doesn’t have to counter, so yes, vote.
The electrical vote is state by state (with two states, Maine and Nebraska divying all but two of those votes one per congressional district), so your vote in a swing state matters.
The popular vote tally is what matters on a state level. 48 states (Ohio included) use a state-wide popular vote and award all their electoral votes to the winner of a plurality (highest percentage even if no one gets more than 50%) in that vote.
Please always vote. Ohio isn’t so deeply red that it’s completely hopeless yet
Yes because there are more options than just president, and increasing voter turnout is always advantageous to the left. There are more Democrats than Republicans in America, so 100% voter turnout means no more fascists in office.
A vote for Biden is a vote against trump Where as a vote for no one is a vote that benefits trump because there’s no one voting against him
Always vote, no matter what. If everyone who said it doesn’t matter voted your red state might turn blue or at very least purple. Even if it still stays red it will be a sign that people are rejecting Republicans and could force change. Plus lots of races aren’t just for president and are local things which can be won with less then 1000 votes in many places so vote every time always.
I used to live in a red state and would get discouraged but I voted anyway. Don’t think about and go vote because it’s better than being apathetic and doing nothing like most of the country does.
voting red or blue will not change anything
until people realize there are third parties to vote for nothing will happen
It won’t happen until a third party can offer a convincingly distinct platform. Right now, all our potential third party options are basically just piecemealed mix-n-matches between the two major parties.
Voting third party changes nothing except help the Democrat or Republican you most identify with to lose.
Voting in the US needs to change first. FPTP replaced with ranked-choice, or approval, at least; the electoral college abolished; NPVIC; proportional representation in Congress.
But the big, first monster is first-past-the-post. No third party has come close to winning the Presidency since Abraham Lincoln. Please, think about that for one second. We haven’t had a serious third party contender in one 164 years. And we won’t, until we get a different election system in place. Until then, third party candidates are spoilers.
Ah yes all the votes for Nader. It did change things, but ask yourself how it changed things. The answer: it changed things for the worse. Big time.
And all those protest no votes against Hilary. Again, how did that change things? Again, it changed things for the worse. Fucking tenfold worse.
If you want things to move left, you do that by giving Dems victories.
Yes! It’s the total votes statewide that determines the winner (POTUS and Senator), no matter which areas of the state they come from. Besides that, a showing of more blue votes in red areas makes a bigger statement to powers-that-be, campaign analysts, etc. than blue votes in blue areas. Represent!
And as everyone else is saying, vote blue for every office on the ballot. The state, county, and city levels are just as important as the national level if not more so. Vote in every election no matter what, even if no one you voted for wins, it matters how close the races are so Dems know where to concentrate their efforts.
Getting you to feel like your vote is meaningless is how they win.
