I think bad decisions influence him cause he was younger than me. It makes me want to know what happened in his life he was able to buy an AR-15 at 22 I think. He had a good life going and it’s like no he tried to shoot Trump and I wonder why? I don’t see how you can just hate someone that much to also end your life over.

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    The weapon he used was owned by his parents for many years prior. He grew up in a household full of guns. From everything we can tell right now, it seems like your typical school shooter. Depression and mental illness leads some to want to go with a bang, pun not intended. It doesn’t seem like he hated Trump, so much as he wanted to target someone famous.

    That said to your ladder point, literally millions of people gave their lives to kill Hitler.

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        Might have ducked all our schools at once with his actions. Thankfully the polling hasn’t shown it helped trumps bottom line yet.

        All those morons wearing maxi pads on their ears is an added bonus.

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      your ladder point

      The point made by a ladder!

      (It’s “latter” point, haha)

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        Aaah thank you, I reread the original post trying to find a point related to a ladder and eventually decided I just didn’t understand what the “ladder point” was referring to, but now I understand them!

        Languages are fun :)

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      Depression and mental illness leads some to want to go with a bang

      No, they really fucking don’t, privilege and the sense of entitlement it gives do.

      Like seriously, beyond the bullshit that is scapegoating mental illness because it’s easier than facing reality, that’s literally not how depression works, nor “mental illness” in general, especially when you consider that mentally ill people are significantly more likely to be victims of violence than perpetrate it.

      Stop perpetuating this lazy counterproductive bullshit.

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        While I get the point you are trying to make, unfortunately unthreaded bipolar depression can indeed lead to manic psychosis episodes. Hyper fixation and grandiosity are also common symptoms. We’re not talking about gender or racial violence here.

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    ‘We’ as in any humans vs no humans? Yes. ‘We’ already know. And ‘we’ likely knew before. ‘We’ just didn’t find the needle in the hay stack soon enough.

    But ‘we’ as in you and I? No. ‘We’ may never know anything. And, ‘we’ certainly won’t know everything. It’s on a need to know basis, and ‘we’ don’t need to know.

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    They googled a bunch of public figures and locations, so guessing notoriety

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    Most people do not go out and attempt an assassination. That alone is an indication of some sort of psychotic break. Evidence may not have been made public yet or there may not be any. The only person who knew for sure is dead.

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      To add to this, he had looked up several targets, including Biden. So it was likely as you say, a psychotic break followed by lashing out, rather than a partisan choice.

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      I don’t think we can necessarily call all killers psychotic. Antisocials in the broadest of terms, maybe, sociopaths, probably, but they’re not necessarily all losing touch with reality.

      In his case, given what we know so far, it does sound rather likely.

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    They said he searched online for both Trump and Biden. Maybe it wasn’t matter for him whom from them to kill. Just to kill a person of power as big as the president or a candidate of such country as US, with all modern security measures. Like Unabomber, or like in the film The limits of Control. And he was quite near.

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    He probably didn’t hate Trump. He seemed to be targeting a bunch of politicians. He was probably either mad at politics, or just trying to be famous.

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    We can never know or speak for why anyone does anything, unless we’re relaying what the person says, because no matter what kind of act we’re speaking of, the only ones who can speak for someone’s intentions is that person. Anything else is putting words in their mouth, an educated guess, based on what we see and not what we don’t. People should stop emphasizing motives as much as they do. Sometimes a motive might not even be able to be manifested in words while still existing.