I have five browsers and couple vpns and some extras that I have mix matched to create sort of tier system depending on how legal is the activity I partake in.
Most illegal though you have to physically relocate to some unprotected hotspot by car
Is that why you are posting it here?
This isn’t the reason I am posting it here
Librewolf, but I’d argue it’s more of a Firefox/web debloater reason. No pocket, no VPN ads. I would have said that the only issue is that it is a pain to update, but they added a windows updater and software repos, so I would almost recommend it over stock firefox for normies.
And I use tor to search stuff that contains sensitive data like my location… Or when a website is blocked
Chocolatey ftw. I was already eyeing it when I jumped to LW so I did the setup for choc and now I have most of my software being managed through it. It’s not perfect but on a schedule, it’s as set-and-forget as it can be for Windows.
I guess with the exception of using the MS Store, but ew.
Was using scoop as I prefer it’s contained aspect. However, now I 'm on Linux, and my work blocked the repo’s so…
Ooh, I’ll take a look at that =)
VPN ads? Not sure I’ve ever gotten such a thing. Been using Firefox daily for several years
You know that tab that opens sometimes when you update Firefox? The welcome to Firefox or what’s new, whatever it is? If I remember correctly, there are sometimes ads for mozilla vpn on that tab. But you, like me, might just close that tab without ever looking at its contents
Haha yeah… I actually like that there is a confirmation that an update was installed and there’s a list of changes if I want to view them. If that “ad” indeed is there, it’s inoffensive enough I never once noticed it. I loathe ads. Not one of those people who tolerates them
This is the argument I keep using for why people should use Linux more. The fact you have to run updater software for each piece of software is so stupid. It’s a horrible solution to a poorly designed problem. On Linux I just tell my package manager to update everything and it takes care of it all. There’s no need for the user to be handling all of that, and it also shouldn’t have to update in starting the application because that’s when the user wants to use it, not wait for an update.
(For reference: it’s the same thing as on your phone where it tells you the number of things that need updated and you just tell it to update whenever you feel like it.)
That’s a great point, but Linux Mint hasn’t a repo for Librewolf in a long time, meaning it was only available through Flatpak. It’s not a big issue, but it does break keepassxc, and is a pain considering the drama Debian got over it
Last time I distrohopped, this was actually one of my main benchmarks. If I couldn’t install Librewolf in under a minute, I picked a different distro.
I hope your benchmark was on something else than a live usb /j
But now most distros only need to install through the package manager, or at worse add the repo
Windows has had winget for a while now. While not as good as Linux version, I think it’s fine enough for those who must still use Windows for their gaming. 🤔
There’s like three package managers for Windows and none of them have gained enough traction to really be considered the de facto.
Also, Microsoft stole AppGet from its developer and didn’t pay them anything.
Just FYI, gaming isn’t a reason to stay anymore really. I’ve only had minor issues since switching.
Multiplayer doesn’t typically work in Proton :(
Yes it does. I’ve been playing Squad, Hunt, and The Finals recently. I’ve also played CS, Overwatch, Tribes 3, and some other multiplayer games too. It almost always works, unless they want you to install a rootkit to play, like Valorant.
For general gaming for sure! Retro gaming is even better on Linux! I am one of those that loves modding their games though, and the tools aren’t there just yet. With Nexus beginning beta for Linux support, I am hopeful that I will be able to switch over soon enough. :)
Yeah, that’s true. Modding does suck. KSP has good Linux support for modding, but I think that’s the only one that I haven’t had to do manually. Manual modding is not hard though, but it does take more time.
I haven’t had any issues running modded games but if I do normally only mod unity games
it is a pain to update, but they added a windows updater
the linux package manager in question
I mean an updater on the windows (the os). Sadly forced to use windows at work, but at least I got my Librewolf.
UniGet GUI
it’s not in the arch repos 💀
but it’s available as flatpak
slow
flatpak has the same or negligibly worse performance than a regular package.
It’s in the AUR
everything is in the aur
edit: i use the aur package already, but you have to acknowledge aur packages just aren’t the same
And as a more advanced user, I need nightly (for custom compiled addons), and just configured everything relevant to be as close to LibreWolf as possible/good for privacy.
Fair enough. But can’t be assed to switch every little thing, and keep track of the new ones (like the ad tracker in 128)
You can get the same effect with Floorp. I mean it technically still has Pocket built in but it’s 1 click to completely disable rather than all the hoops you have to go through in normal Firefox.
I exclusively browse with cURL and manually parse HTML myself the old fashioned way
Why parse the HTML manually when
sed
is a standard utility and you can use it to parse it with regex?Insert copypasta of angry nerd ranting about using regex to parse html.
Its a valid rant, ditto to email
Ooh, it’s my turn to link this beauty.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1732348/regex-match-open-tags-except-xhtml-self-contained-tags
uhhhhhh betterfox
schizofox “Hardened Firefox flake for the delusional and the schizophrenics.”
is this what terry davis used
Arkenfox if anything
I was going to say that librewolf has no declarative extension config on nix, but this does. Neat.
Lynx
Telnet directly to web server and manually type all the GET/POST requests yourself. Then read raw HTML.
I’m forced to use Brave or else my potato has a heart attack – what am I?
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Firefox with Tor for specific stuff
Clearly 🐺. Been on it like, 3y+? Maybe longer, it’s been my primary for a long time. 🦊 as a backup, and for DRM stuff. Chrome/Chromium for shit that just doesn’t play well with 🦎. Edge (for windows) is my ‘I need to test this with a vanilla browser’ and cba to disable ublock etc from chrome incognito.
Iceraven, with backup Vanadium, on mobile.
For mobile, I’d recommend Mull instead of Iceraven
Pros:
- Just like Iceraven, a fork of Fenix
- incorporates the arkenfox user.js
- Doesn’t have “No warranties or guarantees of security or updates or even stability!” in its project description
Cons:
- APKs are only on FDroid
- awful name, no animal reference
- awful logo color scheme imo - magenta on turquoise is… an interesting choice
Here’s a probably somewhat biased but from quickly skimming over it not inaccurate browser comparison by the developer(s) of Mull:
https://divestos.org/pages/browsers
Also based GrapheneOS user
I’ve tried Mull and went back, but I can’t remember why. Iceraven is ‘fine’ but seems a touch buggy for some builds. I used to use Fennec for a long time, but I think IR allows installing ‘unofficial’ add-ons that haven’t been vetted or whatever by Mozilla for mobile. But I’ll have a look see, maybe my issue with Mull has been resolved.
At least the addons part has been mostly resolved - although not all addons are supported, Firefox mobile now has significantly more official addons than before:
https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2024/05/02/1000-firefox-for-android-extensions-now-available/
DRM isn’t for people who care about privacy, freedom or security
Yeah yeah but I want to play games newer than the turn of the century, watch Netflix and prime videos now and then, and I can’t be asked to amass thousands of songs, so here we are.
Tor Browser serves a different purpose/use-case to the first two. The first two are intended for everyday browsing while I’ve never heard of anyone using Tor Browser as their daily browser—and if you log into websites then using Tor Browser as your daily driver would defeat the anonymity purposes if you’re logging in anyway.
I use librewolf for everyday browsing and Tor Browser for things requiring a higher threat model.
It actually feels selfish to use Tor as a daily driver.
I assume that by “selfish” you mean taking up bandwidth from the Tor network, which is a valid concern. But using it as a daily driver for low-bandwidth tasks like reading text (and maybe a few compressed pictures here and there) is actually be beneficial to the Tor network, as it increases the size of the crowd, thereby making everyone more anonymous.
Eh, that’s fair. As long as it is low bandwidth like you said. Maybe I’ll do it some.
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I have modified Firefox. Might as well be Librewolf.
I was the same which was why I just switched to librewolf. Cut the work out for me.
Until Mozilla opts you into something
NetCat. /s
Seriously though, I just use Firefox. LibreWolf is basically Firefox with stricter defaults, and over the years I’ve already tweaked Firefox to use all the privacy features anyway.
I know there’s some extra sauce implemented in LibreWolf that Firefox lacks, but that stuff seems like too much of a compromise for me (like canvas fingerprinting).
Plus, I think orange looks nicer in my window list than blue.
I also don’t use tor or a vpn unless I can’t access anything otherwise. I guess I don’t really see the need to, since I don’t think I’m doing anything that’ll draw the government’s attention.
I started moving from Firefox to LibreWolf and found a few too many convenient features broke.
I think password and bookmark syncing was too difficult to move away from, as I use them across devices/phone.
Haven’t had time to research alternative methods or practices.
Use QR codes
you can enable firefox sync from the librewolf settings. that’s what i do and it works flawlessly
Firefox may silently opt you into “features” such as targeted advertising. Librewolf acts as a barrier.
Also “nothing to hide” is fine if you have nothing to say and you don’t care about liberty.
You can turn off canvas fingerprinting or any added feature with a single checkbox. I used to feel the same way about LibreWolf, but once I familiarized myself with the different settings, it became clearly the superior option if you value privacy. I also set my Firefox settings strictly, but then they added new “features” and turned them on by default. That was the last straw for me.
What is it when one fires up 30 selenium instances using the Firefox webdriver, all loading random sites and clicking links, then route all personal traffic through tor?
Normal?
Librewolf. I yearn for something better for ios. I’m sticking woth firefox because all my tabs & shit are synced.
There isn’t going to be something better because of the locked down proprietary ecosystem. You might as well use Safari
I go back & forth.