• DNOS@lemmy.ml
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    Guys lets be honest why point at small Numbers which you have to read in a specific sequence while doing some math when you can easily and nowadays probably more efficiently (paper-ink) display them… Analog clocks are going to disappear and people will watch at them with the same eyes as we watch a sundial…(Btw I had to search for the translation of the world sundial that’s how common it is … 😉)
    I can ready It but i get teens Who dont

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    I assume replacing them with digital? It’s just an upgrade in technology.

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    It floors me just how many people in this thread feel like analog clock reading is a useless/outdated skill.

    But I’m of the opinion that there’s no such thing as a truly outdated and useless skill, so I’m not sure I have the capability to empathize with those people…

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      As a person who prefers analog clocks I disagree

      What benefit does analog bring over digital other than nostalgia?
      Once is objectively faster to read granularly, by the minute

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        For the usability of the clock, likely nothing.

        I did mention In another comment that there are a number of advantages a round clockface provides to the creation of the clock, however.

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      It’s not useless.

      It’s just less useful that other things that should be taught in school. There is only so much time in a school year, and it shouldn’t replace those more useful things in the curriculum.

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      I perceive remaining time much better with an analogue clock. It’s also why I perceive time in fractions. I think it’s the superior clock, and people should probably learn to fucking read one since they’re everywhere.

      I also think it’s kind of insane that we’re not at least learning how to read cursive in schools anymore. There are countless documents written in English that English speakers will not be able to properly decipher.

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        To be fair i learnt cursive and i can still not decipher most of it, even my own writing (or rather especially my own writing)

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    Sounds like divisive bullshit.

    After all the millennial horseshit we had to hear in the 2010’s and we’re just gonna turn around and do the same shit, huh?

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      Yup, hating on the next generation is a tale as old as time. Idk why, but every generation seems to do it. Maybe it’s being uncomfortable with them being different or afraid of their youthfulness. I don’t get it.

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      I’m not gonna do that, fuck that. I do hope this much screen time is ok for kids, even as a young programmer I didn’t have an iPad everywhere. Nobody seems concerned about their privacy, but guess what: neither did my millennial peers.

      I think everything will be ok with alpha and Z. Let’s not repeat our the mistakes of our parents.

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        I think it’s important to not give certain things the benefit of the doubt. This clock stuff is just plain stupid to get bent out of shape about, but the other two are serious concerns.

        This is just anecdotal, but I was a late 90’s kid that had as much screen time as I wanted growing up. I played an absurd amount of videogames, and had to be dragged outside by my siblings or I could comfortably stay indoors in front of a game or the internet for hours on end. I spent most of my early years (age 3 to age 15) in front of a screen. Yet, I did just fine in school, got a degree, and now work as a software engineer. I fell in love with my highschool sweetheart, and after waiting until I had my degree, we got married at 23, almost 10 years after we started dating. It felt like my obsessive amounts of screen time as a kid didn’t have any negative side effects to my life as a whole (outside of being a quiet and reserved person, and some could argue that that’s not a negative) and led me down a successful career path.

        However, I don’t think kids these days have the luxury of doing that anymore. The content put in front of me as a kid was games made by teams that were passionate about the thing they were working on. Forums and early YouTube videos were created by some no name person with the hope of sharing something they openly cared about. Social Media didn’t exist yet and once it did, I never really got into it.

        The content put in front of children these days is one of three or so things:

        1. Mindless dribble. (looking at you, Youtube Kids)
        2. Rushed, broken games made barely finished enough to get people to buy them just to make a quick buck, and the ones that are finished are so heavily tied into marketing it’s like the game is basically one big ad. (looking at you, Fortnite and Rocket League)
        3. Content made with the express purpose to either gain influencer status, or to use that influencer status to market something, primarily to children who are especially vulnerable to the scummy marketing practices they are using.

        Obviously there are exceptions to these everywhere, but I’m talking about the things that are actively being shoved down kids’ throats. It’s not that I think that the content I consumed was better than what I see kids consuming now, but I think that the motivations behind the content can just as easily influence children as much as the content itself. I think that in a lot of ways, this kind of content is actively degrading kids’ brains, and from my experience, it’s not the screen time, it’s what’s being shown on screen that’s the issue.

        Thankfully I’m tech savvy enough that I can make the internet for my children what it was for me as a kid, without all the marketing and money making schemes that pass as content these days, but a lot of people just toss a tablet in front of their kids and call it parenting.

        I was going to rant about privacy as well, but this is getting way too long. Just know that I think digital privacy is really important, and think that we’ve paid the price for not considering it earlier, and there are ways we can save our kids from the same fate.

        Sorry, I tend to write way too much on topics I care about, thanks for coming to my TED Talk.

        tl;dr - The clock thing is stupid, but please approach the constant exposure to the modern day internet and the digital privacy topics with a bit more scrutiny.

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    Not sure if true or clickbait, but if true it means we’ll eventually lose clockwise and counter-clockwise as descriptive references.

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    It’s true. I teach college kids, and a couple of years ago my class was taking a midterm. The room didn’t have a clock so I put my watch on the document camera display so they’d know how much time was left. A girl in the front row asked me what time it was, because she couldn’t tell time. After she turned in her test, thinking she must be kind of embarrassed about this, I told her I’d be happy to teach her how to tell time. She gave me a look like “ok, boomer” and said no thanks.

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    I lied about knowing how to read these until high school, then I was too embarrassed to ask, so I learned how to read them.

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    OK let’s have a lesson for those who find this difficult. First, remember that little kids pick this up quickly and easily, so you can too!

    We all know there are 60 seconds in a minute, 60 minutes in an hour, and 24 hours in a day, right? and that the day is divided into the a.m. of 12 hours and the p.m. of 12 hours.

    So analog clocks show those 12 hours as the numbers 1-12 evenly spaced around the clock face. Now look a little closer and you see it’s also divided into 60 marks with a tick mark for each of the 60 seconds/minute or 60 minutes/hour. Hang on, we’re almost there!

    The little hand points to the HOUR number (1-12). If it’s in between two numbers, that means the time is in between those two hours.

    The big hand points to the MINUTE tick mark. Notice that the 1-12 numbers coincide with each 5th tick mark so it’s easy to count them. Just count by 5’s! So if the big hand is between the 3 and the 4, that means the minute of the hour is between 15 and 20, look at which tick mark for the exact minute.

    Now, can you figure out how the second hand works? Good! Kindergarten dismissed!

    /s

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    I have a hard time with analog clocks because my brain scrambles shit up and I get really confused. Like, even the hands seem weird when your brain flips the numbers around

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      They are creating more and more idiots out there. The trend of “Help, our students don’t understand xyz, let’s stop teaching that immediately!” is disgusting. Maybe think of teaching it in a different way or just spending more time on that topic?

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        No, screw that whataboutism. When I went to school, I learned so much information that is virtually useless to most people, and not nearly enough skills and knowledge that would actually be helpful in daily life. I would like to see the situation improve for future generations.

        Analogue clocks are everywhere and being able to read them is still important. Besides, if schools aren’t even capable of teaching something so simple to students, I think that calls into question their ability to teach far more complex things.

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          We also need to teach them how to write in cursive so they can read the declaration of independence.

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          It’s because analog clocks are becoming obsolete. You can scream about the young peoples all you want but that’s the reality.

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            I’m not screaming about the young people; I was “the young people” not that long ago. Not everyone who criticizes education is an out of touch boomer resisting every societal change.

            Actually, analogue clocks have been obsoleted in almost every way by digital clocks for at least half a century, as digital wristwatches first hit the market in the 1970s. And yet, analogue clocks are still found everywhere. Classes, stores, train stations, homes, offices, not to mention the majority of wristwatches, still mostly use analogue clocks. In fact, excluding screens, I wouldn’t be surprised if most people came across more analogue clocks than digital clocks on a daily basis. They’re technologically obsolete, but haven’t fallen out of use.

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              I have to have an analog clock within sight in the morning. When I first wake up I’m too tired and bleary eyed to think about numbers but I know what angle the minute hand will be at when I have leave to catch the bus to work. When you’re familiar with an analog clock it’s far more user friendly than looking at some numbers and have to do some math. Sure it’s simple math, but first thing in the morning, I’d rather just glance at the minute hand and when I see the angle I just know.

              So I don’t think it’s not going away despite it being obsolete, it’s not going away because it’s more user friendly. Sure there’s a learning curve, but once you’ve gotten the hang of it, it’s a more efficient way for a human to get a sense of time, which in many cases is more important than having a numerical representation of time.

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          How is that whataboutism?

          It’s not that schools have become unable to teach kids to read analog clocks or kids have become unable to learn it. It’s not that they can’t it’s that they don’t

          But speaking of whataboutism, your argument is literally “well what about all the useless stuff that I learned in school???”
          How about they stop teaching useless stuff, and the first things they can throw out are cursive and analog clocks.

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          Perhaps the fact that we pay them like 30 grand a year is a factor? That’s how much my one bedroom apartment costs 😂 there’s no money left over for food or loans or electricity or gas

          Financial stress has been proven to make you dumber

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    If only they still taught how to read a sundial, but those damn new fangled analog clocks…

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    Who cares. Analog audio, video, phones, all out the window. Next people will be complaining people don’t even know anything about vacuum tubes. Digital clocks are easier to read and make more fuckin sense. Leave the kids alone. 🙄🙄🙄

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    Ugh kids these days can’t even prime a Magneto What’s next morse code!?!