• kamen@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    USB C is better, yes, but I’ve never had a Micro USB fail at the connector.

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    3 months ago

    Microusb has one feature over USBC. You can pull power from the pins without needing to solder a tiny 5kohm resistor to cc1 to tell the cable you want 5 volts.

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    3 months ago

    And it still is terrible. I went in a recent road trip and at one point didn’t have a charger. It’s a newer iPhone and people don’t know what usb-c is, so I tried asking for an Android charger but got this crap instead

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      The lack of this basic type of knowledge in a plug people use every single day both astounds and disappoints me. Right down to people asking me if I have a charger for one of the new iPhones.

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        I know, right? You use these cables EVERY FUCKING DAY. There’s a ton of stuff people need to charge. And with the proliferation of USB-C, you’d think most people would at least know what that one is. But no. Most people have no clue that there’s even a difference between USB-C, -A, micro or a Lightning cable.

        And when you ask people what plug they need they’ll tell you ‘oh it’s a Samsung’ or any other brand, like that’s supposed to narrow it down. It gets REALLY fun when someone needs something specific like a USB-C to Lightning or an A to C.

        We really have regressed since the 90s. My generation grew up learning about these new cables and plugs, but everyone born since 1995 seems to have no fucking clue.

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          I feel like the generations that have grown up with smartphones/tablets have a smaller understanding of how they work or the hardware inside. They’re just mystery boxes that shoot out videos and games.

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            It really is the proverbial double edged sword.

            I was born in 1982. The very first PC I ever used was a Commodore 64 at school. When we got our first home PC in 1996, we kids had to learn everything: how to install things, how to fix driver or OS issues, how to get software and hardware working. You basically learned how things worked, because you needed to in order to fix them. And things broke frequently.

            Back in those days, PC’s and the web were nerd domains. There was a knowledge barrier to entry.

            When we had that first PC, my dad never used it. You couldn’t explain him how to use a right mouse button, much less anything else. To this day, he’s never touched an actual PC or laptop.

            But you wouldn’t know it if saw you him on his iPad. He can stream things, email, send pictures to people, sell stuff online, talk with people… but he still has ZERO fucking idea how it works. They’ve dumbed everything down so much even a toddler and a chimp can use it. And my dad.

            But people who grew up with toddler-proof iPads and phones never had to learn how they worked. They don’t know how to fix a thing if it doesn’t do what they want. I’ve had to help teens with phone and tablet issues, because they lacked the basic skills to diagnose and fix an issue.

            I understand why people are now regressing to tech illiteracy - but it’s also frightening to see.

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              Yep. We’re pretty much the same age. I got a hold of a computer earlier than you did, though. It was definitely a different age of knowledge. I was flipping dip switches and upgrading ram to a whopping 4MB. Crazy that we’ve gone from 30Mhz to well over 3Ghz across 8+ cores.

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    It’s fucking hilarious to me that the USB consortium ever allowed Universal Serial Bus cables to be made without the serial part (data transfer)

    USB-C anything requires a minimum of 2.0 which is how Micro should have always been.

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    3 months ago

    yea. great. now we have a plug that looks the same but has a million different kinds of standards. hooray

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      I have one very nice USB C made from the softest silicon rubber. It feels premium, never kinks and it is tough like nylon rope. It has max specs for USB C for power delivery and data transfer and it cost me $30.

      All the others are freebies that came with various devices and are all disposable compared to my “one true cord” which is the only one to enjoy being apart of my personal arsenal of accoutrements

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      Yeah like what do you mean I can’t use this cable to charge my VR headset? It’s usb c? Oh but that one is somehow more powerful and the other is weakling with no marking whatsoever? Fuck off

      I have one tiny white super powerful usb c cable and all the other are weaklings. Some refuse to transfer files

      If I take one of those unmarked losers on a trip just grabbing some random usb c cable I will have a bad time

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            3 months ago

            I used to keep a long one in my car, and used it to walk my dog if I happened to forget his leash. Upcycling!

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          And where to get new ones? I refuse to pay for a forking cable you know

          Those things are basic human rights. The right to get usb cable for free. I have hundreds of them and if anything I want to exchange

          Chargers same, if I see a charger on the street or anywhere I am looting that forking thing cause they don’t include these things anymore and put it into my drawer full of these things

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      That’s not so bad. I have a few Arduinos with the square USB type B ports…

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      As an iPhone person, I thought I was late to the party. However now I’m usb-c for my phone and my watch and my tablet and my e-reader

      … but usb outlets only have one usb-c port, laptops only have one or two. Some Chargers might have multiple usb-c but they’re all dodvial purpose with different power rather than equal to charge all devices. Apparently at least some Android phones are micro usb. I was promised the rest of the world already moved on, but where are they?

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    USB-A dude. There’s still things that ambush me with a USB-A and I immediately return it. Micro-USB too but nothing as foul as USB-A.

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      *cries in music production gear*

      Why in the fuck are they still selling audio interfaces with USB-A in 2024?!?

      Printers too!

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        As a home recording absolute noob, I have a box full of proprietary cables and audio interfaces that I pretend doesn’t exist quietly mocking me in the corner.

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        Maybe because they’re more resilient? I always worry about the micro USB on my Keystep

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      USB-A just feels like a more solid connection. I’ve never had a USB-A connector not work because of a miniscule amount of dust buildup in a port, nor have I accidently unplugged something.

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    I went through probably 8 micro USB cables on my previous 2 phones over like a 6 year period. Since I got my current phone in 2016 I’m on my second USB c cable.

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      I had the opposite problem. Had to get phones with wireless charging for years because the fucking ports kept dying

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        Yea with the rate I was going through cables I was always really concerned about that. I have one micro USB device left and I’m really paranoid about not using it when it’s plugged in. That one has lasted a long time because it’s just a tablet I use as an ereader but that strategy would never work with my phone.

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    I’ve used more usb gadgets than most people, as I deal with electronics a lot, but I never had a single problem with micro usb. Not sure why people hate it so much.

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      So you’re a practiced expert and cannot understand how those who are not practiced experts can have trouble?

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        Well I’m not sure it takes an expert to master a plug.

        But I’d understand the hate if it was universal (pun maybe intended), but everyone that hates micro-usb seems to adore usb-c, while I feel like it’s potentially much more fragile. When handling usb-c I always use a lot more delicate care than I ever did with micro-usb. Mostly because even though I’m pretty good at soldering very tiny things, I’m not confident I could replace most usb-c receptacles without messing it up.

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          Usb-C is way more robust. It’s thicker, stronger, goes in both ways, has no moving parts. Micro USB is thin, flimsy, has stupid spring tabs that weaken pretty quickly and result in a cord that just falls out of your device when you pick it up while it’s plugged in. Fuck micro USB.

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          Well I’m not sure it takes an expert to master a plug.

          Micro-usb enters the chat.

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      Microusb users: “I’m sorry, there was a slight breeze in my house and now my charger doesn’t work.”