Thank you GabeSter
Love how we went from “if you’re calling Biden to drop out you’re a russian agent” to “he’s so great for dropping out since it’s the obviously correct choice, what a great sacrifice he did for his country”.
I love how people went from “if you vote for a Democrat you love genocide” to “damn with Biden gone, what other ways can we shit on anything resembling a Democrat?”
It’s the tired song and dance, capital will propagandize all the same. So many little froggies that simply sat under Daddies’ Fox News broadcast while playing with their toys. No one really cares what reason anyone has — if you make Republican arguments, you’re a Republican. Wrap yourselves up in “genociiiiiide” all you want, you trash bags. Literal inhuman. Republicans at least vote consistently to destroy themselves. These fake leftists are disgusting, only exist to destroy the cause they say they support. MAGA is just plainly treasonous. Gaza-leftists are insidiously so.
I’m sure you could’ve said something weirder and more cryptic though
You were a Russian agent for implying that you wouldn’t still vote Dem in the event that he didn’t quit. Also the enthusiasm over Kamala, and now Walz as well, is great but absolutely unprecedented. While people certainly believed we could and would figure things out if Biden stepped down promptly, I don’t think anyone honestly believed things would come together anywhere near “this” well. Which makes it all feel extra satisfying in the aftermath.
Nah, i had people call me a Russian bot for saying it’d be a good thing if Biden dropped out. There’s just a lot of stupid people about.
Though while i was expecting a Biden dropout to be successful, i certainly was not expecting it to be this successful.
Well, I still haven’t been personally thanked for saving democracy after saying Biden’s brain is mostly 2-week old potato salad at this point
Your prestigious award is in the mail.
Is it a t-shirt that says “I personally saved democracy and all I got was this lame t-shirt”
And a tub of 2-week old potato salad.
Did I say 2-week old potato salad? I meant to say his head is full of a delicious eggplant lasagna, heavy on the capers
Well. It was one week old when it went into the mail
That’s because you’re wrong, and are a Republican NPC for saying it. Russian little froggie. I’m sure you’re just as adamant about Trump’s lack of fitness, surely. And about like 2/3 pf the Republican caucus, frankly. If you can make the stretch argument that Biden isn’t mentally sound, I can make the solid argument that every Republican voter is inhuman
“Oh but they’re worse”
Yeah. They are. Why the double standard? Why is anyone critical of our guy automatically “a russian little froggy”? What happened to self awareness?
Why are you still fighting this battle? He’s out, everyone agrees he has shit for brains and we’re better off without him. You’re welcome.
You’re just out here making things up. Biden isn’t incapacitated. Trump has literally never been capable. Double standards only really apply when both choices have an attempt at being at the same level. So many inhuman Americans just equate the two, and you get inhumans like you saying “huuuurrr biden is obviously retard” when Trump does not actually know the laws in your country. Its beyond asinine, and clearly in bad faith.
Oh shoot I didn’t know it was in bad faith to point out the emperor’s clothes have had a steep cognitive decline. Oh well, next time he runs I won’t mention it. He should be fine to run again, right?
That’s hilarious because I’m quite sure the Republican platform is “Trump 2028”, and even Biden dropping out has supposed leftists saying its a couuuup. You’d complain about anything. Why don’t you go scream about buttery males.
You were a Russian agent for implying that you wouldn’t still vote Dem in the event that he didn’t quit.
You sound brainwashed. Are you aware that the US government spend more money than russia in propaganda? Do you realize that you are calling russian agents people not willing to vote for a genocide supporter?
So PBS Frontline has this new documentary that I watched a few weeks ago, “Biden’s Decision”. As a leftist that voted against Trump, not FOR Biden, I figured I would learn more about his history.
But it was honestly shocking to me that the entire crux of the piece was “Get back up” and “Determination” for all the times Biden ran for president, he himself never really gave a good reason why. Biden decided he wanted to be president, and therefore he spent his whole life running for president, not because he felt he was the most qualified or best for the country. But because he wanted it. Biden wanted to be the one in charge, but historically, he never had many who actually wanted him? Dude only got to the White House when Obama balanced his ticket and then again when his best qualification was “Literally Not Trump”.
So while I am glad he dropped out, and somewhat happy for Biden for achieving a life goal, I guess? Still don’t see a compelling reason to be enthusiastic for the man, yet it was eye opening that no one has ever been enthusiastic for him. Biden stepping down was the right thing to do, just not the thing he wanted to do. Not really sure that is deserving of praise?
Humility isn’t exactly a noble virtue, it’s a standard. Not this lifetime running for the sake of running. Glad he is finally out, but that’s hardly going above and beyond, it’s less than the bare minimum.
Gen-X here, and likely to be downvoted to hell in this thread, but I remember Biden from the 90’s. He was…not a good guy. He had what you might call MAGA energy back then. Constantly fear mongering about crime. Yes, both he and Clinton recently admitted that the “tough on crime” thing was a mistake, but that doesn’t really help the situation we find ourselves in now where a significant portion of the population is incarcerated and facing near impossible odds if they ever get out. Their families and society as a whole have paid the price for a few men’s political ambitions.
So, yeah, old man Joe ended up being a fairly decent president (after getting old as fuck, having one son die and the other become a total.loser piece of shit), but he was never “good guy Joe”.
… I remember Biden from the 90’s. He was…not a good guy. He had what you might call MAGA energy back then. …
that’s the biden i know and i wish i could see him like op does; but it’s clear biden hasn’t changed his his ways when you take into account all of the lip service he’s paid for things like green energy and progressive justice while simultaneously permitting drilling to the highest levels ever in recorded history; using the inflation act to create tariffs to block truly affordable green energy products; and giving nearly unfettered access to weaponry to bomb a defenseless group of people into non-existence.
he’s done this so many times before like when he said that gays deserve compassion and then supported dont ask dont tell and voted for doma; also when he suggested that young people need help and then created the student loan act of 2005 that is currently fucking a lot of us over and for life; plus many MANY more examples.
i get that it’s election season and we want to be nice; but this guy doesn’t deserve it for doing the bare minimum.
He was against integration. He was a key player in giving us Thomas. He didn’t pull out and allow the democrats to have an actual primary. And so on. I’m glad he dropped out. I think his administration did an OK job, albeit completely failing in dealing with the fascism threat (no, I don’t know what they could have done. That’s not my job.).
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He had what you might call MAGA energy back then. Constantly fear mongering about crime.
Here, I’ll take some of your downvotes - if being “tough on crime” gives you MAGA energy (and I agree, it does), then what energy does that mean ex-prosecutor, “top cop” Harris has?
The answer is, it doesn’t matter, she is a liberal icon - a Black girl boss (so that’s racism and sexism solved! /s)(E: representation is really important, but if she doesn’t represent the interests of those like her, is it really a good representation?), a democrat (making her the antifasciest of antifascists, don’t you know), and maintainer of the status quo (all libs really care about, they find comfort in the system and want it to continue as it is).
Sure, She’s-Not-Trump™, but that doesn’t make her (or anyone the right leaning democratic party would put up) actually good for you, it just means that those in charge get one of their own in, whoever wins.
And that is the point of the two party system. Shame people are so desperate for a feeling of belonging and community (a feature, not a bug) that they substitute that with uncritical support of team red or team blue, when in reality they should be for “team citizen”, which neither party is.
I disagree that humility is a standard. Yes, it should be, but sadly it is a virtue that isn’t found in too many people nowadays. Most people don’t really think critically enough about themselves to truly be humble imo.
It actually does sound like you agree with me? If we can both say that it’s not found in enough people and that’s dissapointing then it is a standard we hold just one not enough meet. Humility isn’t common, but since it is such a low bar of understanding yourself it doesn’t deserve praise.
Yeah, if you put it like that then I agree. I just understood “standard” in your previous comment as “what most people are like”. Which I guess we wouldn’t call “standard”, we’d call it “normal” instead. 🤔
Tbh I often felt as if the guy was still going because he felt he had to. This somewhat reflects his indecision and even final statements before stepping down. I sincerely believe he felt he was doing the right thing. People who believe they are doing the right thing are often stubborn in their belief and I’m glad he found the strength to step aside. That can’t have been easy.
I agree with your assessment. Politicians also live a life where somewhere around half of all people think they are making the wrong decision at all times, so unless they have conviction they flop around way too much to succeed.
Also, for all people who are getting old, it’s their first time, and they have no idea what they might seem like to anybody else. It’s like you have been getting back up after being knocked down your whole life and suddenly you can’t get back up again.
We do bash on older people in politics, and they shouldn’t be there past a point. Though like…they remember when things were better. Distanced as they are, the good ones likely see the differences, though from a different perspective to us. How they care is different from what we need and some politicians are becoming aware of that, AOC the modern example.
Stepping aside for Harris was scary for us and probably terrifying for Biden. He stepped up because of Trump, DNC bs aside, it was still his choice. So of course he would struggle to step down. Could you imagine giving a treasonous moron the boot and for the entirety of your time in any big chair you’re just watching them gain a larger and larger following, all the while half of the people you’re supposed to work with are backing that person blindly? Man, I’d be so fucking anxious and frustrated. Like it or not, that’s Biden imho.
I don’t think the man ever wanted the job. Despite the naysayers, rabble-rousers, and people whose entire argument centers on hiding behind and screaming about one specific thing over and over, Biden HAS been a good President. Possibly even great in so many ways. I’m not a particular fan of him, the only leader that ever got my full attention has been Bernie, Biden though? He’s done good.
Right now though? We need someone strong and clever enough to push past bipartismanship and play hardball. We also need unity. I’m not sure Harris has the natural charisma to pull the Nation together. However, she seems smart and willing to build a powerful team. There is leadership in that wisdom.
He would have stuck it out stubbornly had he not been pressured. No cookies for Biden.
So you’re saying that a politician listened to members of his party and the voters, sidelining his own ambitions. And you have a problem with that?
It’s not just a matter of if, but also when.
Biden waited until damn near the last possible minute, and probably wouldn’t have stepped down if it wasn’t for the Trump shooting.
Waiting until the last second absolutely fucked the GOP though. They were only prepared to run against Biden and now they don’t have the time needed to spin up an effective campaign against Harris.
I don’t know if the timing was strategic or just a tough decision, both seem possible. But the end result is that we’re now in a better position to stop Trump in November.
It was not strategic. It was hubris and bad advice bordering on elderly abuse. I have no doubt Jill Biden was a big part of the choice to stick it out, based on some of the insider leaks on this topic.
I dunno - the timing was right after the RNC and Vance being locked in. Vance didn’t broaden the ticket appeal because they thought Trump had the election in the bag. The timing might not have been strategic but it worked out pretty damn well!
The timing was clearly strategic. He didn’t want to do it, but there’s a reason why Kamala’s campaign literally started calling Democratic representatives within hours.
I have no doubt that he was presented the near certain possibility of being humiliated (some more) and handing over the remains of American democracy to a group of literal Nazis, just to safeguard his own ego.
I would have voted for his administration no matter what (I was relatively pleased with it), but I have no fantasies about who Joe is and why he really stepped down. Once Obama started campaigning for him stepping down, it was all over.
He quit to save his own ego and his “legacy”.
You type this and get up voted. I say the same thing more succinctly and get hammered.
I would have voted for him, but my vote double doesn’t count. I’m in a hard Blue state, Washington. You could support genocide and Washington would still vote Dem. Oh… Wait.
Wait, in the US, it’s not common to hate all your politicians? Coming from France, that’s like… a second nature
Only a few are respected, but for the most part I personally hate them all. Bernie Sanders is one with integrity. So is Jimmy Carter.
The thing is the nomination was his and there was nothing anyone could do about it. He could have stayed in the race. An argument can be made that it looks worse to step down halfway through the campaign instead of fighting till the end. An egocentric guy like Trump would never have stepped down. He would try to turn the base against the RNC and set the party on fire before giving up. That’s the contrast being shown here.
Let the man have cookies! We are all not as self-aware as Orbituary :-/
Never should have run in the first place
Thanks, Brandon.
Looks like scumbag steve to me
Wait until you see genocider-in-chief Xinny
Attaboy Joe
Hopefully Harris will win over the American people. A second Trump term is probably the biggest threat to world peace that we could have.
He’s putting the right ambitions as a priority, and at his current age, I don’t blame him.
Jon Stewart showed video of this beach scene after showing Trump’s claims that Biden is going to come back and take over. “He’s not coming back, Donald! Get over it!”
Donald could have done this same thing if he’d stayed the fuck out of politics. Biggest self-own ever.
https://www.tvguide.com/news/donald-trump-presidential-campaign-timeline/
Also, I love that the first answer I got to the question 'How many times has Trump run for President?" came from TV Guide,
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I have seen exactly one Ronald Reagan movie; The Killers with Lee Marvin and John Cassavetes.
Reagan has a pretty small part, and is outshone by pretty much every other actor, including the guy who was an ape General in Planet Of The Apes and the horny landlord from Three’s Comapny
Idk what kind of state my mental health would be in this election season if he’d not come back… he is a international treasure
Yup, exactly how I know of it…
We can stop jerking this guy off now, he’s no longer the candidate. I think he was a shit candidate from the beginning, despite being worlds better than Trump.
What could have been if we had Bernie…
He did a commendable thing his opponent could never do. That is deserving of a meme. Stop being a stick in the mud lol
Fuck genocide Joe. Dudes selfish as fuck and only backed out when he realized he was gonna lose.
Stop living in fantasy. He was forced out, under threat of the 25th amendment. This wasn’t some selfless act…he lost his faculties and had to be booted by his own party under threat.
Clueless comment. He was not forced by anyone, maybe encouraged. Very clear what happened if you were paying attention; he made a public statement that he might not continue running if he fell ill, then promptly contracted covid and dropped out. Mike Johnson is too new to his seat to consider approving any action based on a25, Kamala would have to be the initiator of the process, and the only mentions I saw of it were well after the step-down.
Ok Joe. Now legalize it.
I wonder if Harris is still pro-legalization.
With how much everybody’s expressing their love for Biden, I’m half expecting him to reenter the race and be praised for it.
(Joke. Just a joke.)
still a genocide supporter
Enabler even.
Useful link for the ones downvoting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Israel_in_the_Israel–Hamas_war
While I don’t think I’ll ever like or fully respect Biden, I seriously respect the fact he stepped down. While I get that he was being pressured to do so, he is still the leader of the Democratic party and could have just said “fuck you”
There might be something I am missing because I am not American, but isn’t the leader of leader of Democratic Party the chairperson? Isn’t it Chuck Schumer?
There are many leaders in each American political party, the leader of their representatives in the house, the leader of their senators, the leader of the party committee, the leader of the governor’s association, etc. But when a party controls the White House, the president is generally considered the head honcho. Part of that is respect for the office, part of it is practicality (the president has the biggest ability of any one person to message a party’s platform), and part of it is mechanics (every four years at the national convention, the party adopts the platform of their presidential candidate, essentially signing up to work for that person if and when they become president to support enacting that platform. Chuck Schumer is the Majority leader of the Democratic Senate caucus, which makes him very high ranking in the party, but Biden would still “outrank” him, so to speak. Jaime Harrison is the DNC chair, which is largely a fundraising and campaign strategy position vs. a position of power.
If the party holds the Presidency, the President leads the party in every way that matters.
“Leader” is only a title. Money rules and they told him “no more, now GTFO.” He was forced out. With no support he really had no choice.
Money rules is a shallow and incomplete view of power, and I’m saying that as an anarchocommunist
It’s not incomplete. It’s exactly what happened in this situation. You can’t campaign without money.
If you’re going to refute my “simplistic” explanation you’re going to need more than a simplistic answer that proves nothing. Why am I wrong?
