In my experience, /most/ people don’t care and further, they don’t want to care.

Even those that do care have to exist on a sliding scale of compromise in order to function.

I would refer to the recent FTC questions to “algorithmic pricing practices”. Long story short it was about some companies are using browser data, accounts data, etc. for “smart” pricing. Your brother may not care about someone watching him but I don’t think he wants to pay for the same goods more than others.

I think, when you explain things to people (i.e. in instances where it’s not an absence of knowledge that’s the problem), the vast majority of people know we’re correct, but are held back by convenience. They’re embedded into the Google ecosystem or whatever, and it is a pain in the ass to migrate. There are many popular services for which there isn’t a 1:1 private alternative. I can openly and confidently say that I sacrifice some convenience for privacy, and to me it is worth it. But other people, while they agree that they don’t like being spied on, are used to being spied on and therefore have a “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” attitude. They’re already using spyware and it’s not had an immediately obvious acute consequence for them, so there’s not really any turning point at which they would go “this is enough” and change.

I think so long as they’re aware, if they do value privacy, over time they should slowly replace the things they use. Also, some of my friends get Signal just to speak to me since I’m not really on anything else (unless they want to email me lol), so that kind of effect may push them in the right direction.

If your brother doesn’t care though, he just doesn’t care. Privacy is actually very straightforward: it’s creepy for someone to be spying on me and watching my every move, therefore I take precautions to make that difficult for people wanting to spy on me. You don’t need to convince people that being spied on is creepy. They know that, and are stopped by inertia, which they can only overcome on their own. I don’t think it’s worth nagging them about it when they already know what is to be known.

I remember a discussion with a friend of mine while I was probably droning about privacy, surveillance capitalism, etc.

She politely listened then said she didn’t really mind or care.

I feel quite strongly about this and as I know she is pretty smart was somehow surprised by her reaction so I tried to illustrate my point more directly. We were in a bar so it went a bit like this :

• A: so, can I ask you how much you earn?
• B: yes, sure
• A: can I tell others here in the bar
• B: I guess
• A: can I instead sell others that information so that they can try to sell you goods and services?
• B: no

So my point was that she associated a problem with privacy with a friend who might be a bit curious. When she started to see it as a systematic commercial endeavor that was unfair to her, she did change her mind.

Maybe a short thought experiment like this could help your brother see what’s troubling to you?

Post his social security number online, next to a scan of his photo ID. He’ll realize the importance of privacy in a few months.

Privecy & security go hand in hand.

Show him camera footage of him masturbating.

You can’t. As more generations are born into a world where 24 hour a day surveillance, constant data tracking, and a monthly subscription for literally everything are the norms the expectation of any kind of privacy will sound like something from a history book.

Soon it will seem odd to people that anyone wouldn’t want every thought and action to be tracked and recorded by our corporate overlords. People who try to maintain any type of real privacy will be seen as misanthropic at best or highly suspicious at worst.

You don’t

Privacy is something that is fairly personal and different for each person. Trying to force it one someone is going to end badly and will not help at all.

Aks him his passwords, see if he doesn’t care

tie him to a chair and make him watch this

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=MBBOjf7fLrc

(I’m joking about tiying him to a chair ofcorse)

easy: “why do you wear clothes?”

Tell him to pull down his pants and start wanking in front of you

Honestly, it’s gonna be an uphill battle & maybe a futile one at that, depending on age. I share so many articles & what not w my parter and friends showing them that so and so is bad for your digital privacy. They respond like wow ok I should do something about this 😮…anyway, back to scrolling on Meta apps and buying stuff from ads that are fed to me. It’s not until they click that one wrong ad and compromise their financial info/identity data that they come back and ask what I was talking about that one time re: online privacy 😅😒

Don’t even get me started on ppl who have cameras indoors. Honestly, it’s just really creepy to me that people go back and watch what others are doing throughout the day. It’s funny that some ppl in my circle are so ACAB & what not, yet when I share that their Ring cameras share access to law enforcement they’re like oh wow really? & that’s about it. 🤦🏼‍♀️

I have had some success using this video to introduce ppl to some real life consequences: https://youtu.be/F78UdORll-Q I think what really helps drive it home is the escalation of tactics & real world ramifications of failing to understand how important privacy can be, not just for the individual, but for our communities/society.

Good luck 🍀! I hope you can find a way to persuade him to take it a bit more seriously!

Find his information in a data breach and log into one of his accounts. Post something to prove it and show him how important it is to care about privacy/security