I’ve been looking into all sorts of them recently: logseq, appflowy, vikunja, etc. What tools do you use? Why? What problems did you run into with the previous set of tools you used for this job?
Right now I’m primarily interested in finding a “zero-knowledge” (cloud provider doesn’t have access to my data) system for task management. Needs to be able to have recurring tasks and tasks organized in some interesting/useful ways (by projects/labels/something, maybe a kanban and table view). Deadlines and time tracking/planning interesting but not required.
I’ve been using todo.txt for tasks for about a month now—it’s dead simple, supports all the bells and whistles you mentioned; and, with the topydo CLI, you can very easily make yourself a kanban interface using its columns UI. I sync the files with my iPhone and use Todooo on iOS, which works beautifully.
As for notes, I just write simple text files with my favorite editor. Maintaining complex systems of interconnected notes, I’ve found, most often does not pay off for the enormous time investment required (some specific use cases aside); tags, links, etc. I have all found to be superfluous—any kind of
grepintegration in the editor is all that’s needed for finding things. I write in either markdown or Typst, because basic Typst is essentially the same as markdown anyway, and because I’ve found it very useful to keep notes in the same format I write longer-form documents in.I’ve never found a use for any of this. I only utilise a calendar. How complicated are your people’s lives?
I’ll take the bait if no one else will.
A calendar is useful for one thing: pinning events that will happen at a known time and being reminded of when they are about to start.
If you need to keep extensive notes on projects, understand how late or accelerated tasks will impact other dates, break down work into steps, track progress on a project or individual task, create lists, map ideas, inventory items, archive knowledge, or sketch workflows, a calendar is worthless.
Zim Wiki https://zim-wiki.org/
Desktop wiki, saving to .md text files, can commit to git repo and has basic task handling.
Perfect for me.
Zim can be used to:
Keep an archive of notes Keep a daily or weekly journal Take notes during meetings or lectures Organize task lists Draft blog entries and emails Do brainstormingOrg mode on my laptop, don’t see any need for anything else.
Taskwarrior
None. I’m used to Notion and unfortunately there’s no OSS even getting close to that. I would like to move away, but even if I considered to lose my current base or move everything manually, there’s nothing feature-rich enough to meet my use cases.
personal knowledge
man, apropos
task management
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I just use Zettlr (a markdown editor optimized for writing research papers). I wish it wasn’t an electron app, as it’s paggy as hell sometimes on Linux, but it’s the best balance I’ve found between features, ease of use, and stability.
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Foam is pretty good https://foambubble.github.io/foam/
I’ve loved Obsidian since I started using it.
If I moved to OSS, it looks like Logseq would be closest.
There’s Trilium-Next too, I’ve been trying it for a day or so and it floats my boat better than logseq so far. My notebook is on QOwnNotes right now, it’s fantastic but on the simpler side
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@makeasnek emacs + denote and org mode
I use the app opentask. Based on your criteria, it’s exactly what you’re looking for. It’s all stored locally on your phone, it has the ability to set recurring tasks, and you can create categories of preset and custom tasks. Deadlines can be set as far into the future as you need, down to the minute. It’s available on F-Droid.
After many years of Org-mode, I’ve settled on Emacs Denote with a git repo of markdown files, paired with a paper bullet journal.
I’m curious why markdown works better for you?
I just switched to denote - liking the simple elegance.
I stopped using the task management features of Org mode and I wanted to use Apache mod_markdown to view my notes when on a mobile device. I like how simple markdown is. It’s all I need for notes. Denote is great for keeping organized.
Not who you asked but I’m a big fan of markdown because it lets me create notes that are:
- Fast
- Useful
- Pretty
Usually you can only pick two of these things in a paper notebook or other file types. I personally use Obsidian right now, which allows me to create notes even faster with hotkeys and JavaScript templates, but any markdown editor with a preview mode is plenty
I would ascribe the same virtues to org mode, but to give one answer to my own question, markdown is entirely editor independent which is generally a plus, though least so for personal notes where org can export to many formats (including markdown).
With org and Emacs there are other benefits like integrated personal to-do and agenda management which is why I have favored it over markdown. But even though I’m a committed Emacs user, being primarily an Emacs format is a philosophical negative if not a practical one for me in this case.
Obsidian thankfully has many of the same features that you’re describing, albeit some of them rely on community plugins. The cross platform accessibility of markdown is definitely the biggest factor for a lot of people - but for me, the fact that I can instantly make an aesthetically pleasing note; one that is not just easy to read and gather information from but is also nice to look at: is the biggest plus. Other editors have plenty of templates and most people probably don’t care about how their notes look as long as it’s notes, but I love the look and feel of a good markdown note
I use Joplin, there’s desktop and mobile clients, sync with your own WebDAV server and you’ve a Kanban plugin. It also does checklists, tables and all the stuff people like. Stores everything in markdown so that’s a win.
Same, only I self-host a Joplin server. I have yet to find something that’s nearly as versatile with so little effort.
Hmm… besides note sharing what’s the advantage of the server over WebDAV? I kina picked WebDAV because I already had the infrastructure in place for other things, and let’s face it, it is a piece of cake to get nginx run a WebDAV server.
Webdav is a great option too. I don’t know that it’s a question of advantage so mush as a matter of preference, honestly. I just like to have my services as segregated as possible. I use Radicale for contacts and calendar. That way, if radicale fails, I lost my ability to sync those, but get to keep syncing my notes and such, if Joplin fails, I lost that ability but my calendars and contacts still sync. I also share a lot of notes, lists and stuff like that with my wife, which makes it easier.
What I have in terms of self-hosted over 14 different services in ProxMox could have been solved by having a simple Nextcloud instance, but I feel nextcloud is overkill for my needs, and if it fails, all my services fail, so I moved away from it about 6 months ago or so.
by having a simple Nextcloud instance, but I feel nextcloud is overkill for my needs, and if it fails,
I do like to keep things separate as well and Nextcloud is an ongoing source of issues and a piece of shit a software. Since I don’t share notes I find WebDAV to be good enough and simple enough not to fail.
My setup is mostly Syncthing, FileBrowser, Baikal, Joplin, FreshRSS, WebDAV (for a bunch of those and as a way to have mobile access to the Syncthing/FileBrowser data. Simple and realiable.
Our infrastructure seems pretty similar, except for the Radicale/Baikal part. I also have a Kavita instance, Vaultwarden, Frigate, Stirling Pdf, Immich (but I’m seriously thinking of dropping it as it sucks resources like crazy and tends to break often with very large libraries) and an instance of Wazuh to make sure I have as little potential vulnerabilities as possible in hosts and docker containers.
My wife says I spend too much time playing with my servers and network, but that keeps me home instead of outside, so you would think that’s a good thing 🤣
Yeah I get the wife part 😂 I use KeepassXC for password so sync happens over Syncthing for desktop/laptop and WebDAV for mobile. Frigate is something I will eventually get in but first I’ve to decide on a good camera brand that can work 100% offline, right now all signs point at AMCrest but I’m a bit undecided.
Frigate is wonderful, and getting better all the time. I also run Scrypted, which is another fantastic tool! The scrubbing on Scrypted NVR is a lot less painful, but a lot more expensive. I enjoy supporting small open source projects, though.
I did it pretty inexpensive in the cameras front. Got a bunch of TP-Link Tapo cameras, registered them in the app, set the rtsp and Onvif on Frigate, and completely blocked their internet access. Works like a charm with cameras in the $25-65 range.
