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Imagine how embarrassing it would have been if some of these executives who’ve been so aggressive about the importance of maintaining a good public image had their spouses or children die in a totally preventable inferno, or suffocate to death. Or have a long uncontrolled descent back to hit the ocean, dying on impact, knowing the whole way down what was about to happen. Like the Challenger crew. Or, if one of these Boeing executives had had their child on one of the 737MAXes that flew itself inexorably towards the ground and no survivors because of a minor sensor failure.
Super embarrassing, it would have been. Fuck em, the lot. Hope they have trouble with their careers.
Mystery Science Theater 3000 needs to hook up with these astronauts. Do their season 14 campaign with them. They are already trapped in space. Might as well be experimented on by being forced to watch cheesy movies. I mean, they need something to do while up there…
In the not too distant future, next February…
I’ve been pretty sure for a while that many at boeing have no shame.
Not embarrassed enough. When the company is ripped apart and the McDonnell Douglas DNA is buried under concrete, it’ll be a good start.
Hopefully this is a catalyst for further NASA contracts resulting in specifications for spacesuit compatibility. Huge oversight.
Is it really a big deal for a spaceflight that was meant to carry four people in spacesuits to instead carry two people in spacesuits plus two empty spacesuits?
Sure there probably should be some kind of standard, but it feels like there’s much bigger problems to worry about.
Go ahead and piss on the control panel of your Tesla while on autopilot at highway speeds.
Small problems can lead to unforeseen consequences. Mitigate all problems as best you can.
I don’t own a Tesla? I don’t even own a car at all.
But I do have some experience with software engineering and know there’s pros and cons to everything. Standards are great but there are times when there’s a reason you need to make something for a specific purpose. I don’t know the specifics (and I’m guess you don’t either) of how a space suit interfaces with a space craft, but I can see how the requirement to have a spacesuit interface with multiple types spacecraft could result in an increased complexity. 99% of the time every spacecraft will have the same number of spacesuits as astronauts, and it’s only on a rescue mission like this that the number will differ. But on a rescue mission there will also need to be the same number of empty seats as the number of astronauts being rescued meaning there will always be enough room to carry the number of necessary spacesuits.
The time to have a standard spacesuit standard would’ve been before either the Dragon or the Starliner launched. As it is creating a standard would mean components in both the spacesuits and spacecraft components in one or both of the programs will need to be redesigned. Which opens up the potential for a problem similar to pissing on a Tesla dashboard (weird analogy). You should mitigate that by not imposing an unnecessary re-design of space suit and space craft components.
Sure they may want to have a standard, but it’s best they wait for a future re-design of the space craft is happening for other reasons to require it. Let the engineers make that engineering decision, not impose it because of some extremely minor inconvenience caused by a single failed mission.
I don’t even understand how exactly they can be incompatible. Are we talking fittings or is it the overall dimensions It seems crazy that they wouldn’t take that into account when they were doing their design work.
The starliner suits are made of woven rubber bands and paperclips.
Boeing is a fucking joke but let’s be real this corpo culture is the standard in the US across industries. In less critical markets, this behavior is considered good business practice. How how you jucie the profits now.
Musk just happy a British diver didn’t get there first.
I’m more interested in these company sharing the load together into space faithfully than any slap-fight that sells e-ink.
As shown by Boeing “sharing the load” of mcdonnell Douglas you can’t share with “bad apples”. SpaceX, NASA and Blue origin could maybe do well.
Nationalize it
How so…
We fund it and clearly current arrangement doesn’t work.
Don’t know why it’s being downvoted, it’s really fucking valid. These people almost died in a horrific way just getting up there, and ground control absolutely knew it somewhere between boost and docking. Absolutely insane.
Ground control noticed helium leaks and the spacecraft had a cluster of thrusters fail. That’s not almost dying in a horrific way.
You’ve misunderstood, or just read the PR.
Unless they are specific to a helium deficiency in the boost system, GUESS WHAT? Not a part of reentry.
They need basic compression to put them back on a safe path to reentry, and they wouldn’t use an ignition engine. You don’t extend the stay by a year because “helium not gud” as part of an ignition.
They lost compression and nobody will say it out loud. It’s the only reason to explain this and the docking issues they had.
Don’t know why it’s being downvoted
