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    It sure is easy to grift squeenix out of their money nowadays, eh? I think I’ll start some new blockchain project, market it to whoever’s their CEO, get rich and get out.

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    Additionally, the first Alpha version of PlaytronOS has now been released for those of you who wish to test and give feedback. So far they note it has been tested across the AYANEO 2, ASUS ROG Ally, GPD Win 4 (2023), Lenovo Legion Go, Valve Steam Deck LCD and Valve Steam Deck OLED.

    Quite a nice list of tested handhelds.

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    “There’s no login screen, how do I unlock it?”

    “It’s square enix, they expect you to have a keyblade”

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    The main benefit of web3 “games” is that a dev can make millions from something with PS2 graphics, recycled assets and zero innovation

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      SuiPlay0X1 runs Playtron’s device-agnostic gaming operating system, enabling gamers to play both Web3 and Web2 games across PC and mobile.

      GamesBeat have some more details, noting it will have "native Sui blockchain integration via zkLogin and Sui Kiosk SDKs, enabling asset ownership directly connected to a device’s account system for the first time in the gaming industry

      What is a web3 game? Something that allows you to grind for NFTs?

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        To me, the term “Web3 games” sounds like they’re trying to make a knockoff of Cookie Clicker with NFTs.

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        The big thing I’ve seen for gaming is the idea that you can have tokens not tied to a specific game. Like maybe an achievement gotten in resident evil unlocks a cool skin dead by daylight.

        Or you could implement something like Sword Art Onlines’s item/skills system where they attached to a user and not a server, and servers can choose which ones to implement in their version of the game.

        Of course its also possible it could be sold second hand, so maybe you think the Christmas skin of a popular character is stupid and will never wear it, but someone else just missed the event. You could sell/gift it to them, because the entitlement is yours to do whatever you want with it. Maybe you just hate the hell out it so much you offer a ton of cash just lock them all up. Idk this part of it just not my jam tbh

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          But why honor other companies tokens? Hell why honor your old tokens? You make the effort to create assets in your new game, are you going to just give it to a limited number of players who play both game for free, or resell it to all players? If you buy an nft for a game that then gets ignored, was it any different then a DLC, or using the steam market place to trade the item? After all i have read i don’t see where this helps players at all, and for companies, the only benefit i can see is if they pump and dump their players.

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            Maybe you see your game as spiritual successor to a previous game and want to honor player previous progress or achievements in the previous game.

            Maybe you accept third party assets and need some market for those assets, and NFTs can represent a legally binding proof of ownership of that asset.

            Maybe you want keep your live service relevent by having your assets transferable among a larger ecosystem of games.

            It is very much like the steam market place but unlike steam items you do actually own it, steam can’t legally shut down your account or block you from transferring that ownership after the fact.

            But yeah its just a tool no idea what all game makers will want to do with it.

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        Web 3 games are simply ponzi schemes hidden behind a super grindy game. As far as I know, none of these games actually produce anything of value from the labor put into them, so the payouts must come from new money entering the scheme.

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          Yep, they literally cannot work any other way than as a ponzi scheme. Because the people “earning” want to take more money out of the system than they put in, and the company is taking money out as well just to keep the game running and the employees paid, as well as to make a profit. So you need substantially more suckers buying into the system than the money that is being paid out.

          Eventually, somebody is gonna be left holding an empty bag.

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        TF2 hats but on a block chain instead of an inventory system.

        Pros:

        • In theory you can still sell the item as a collectible even if the game dies (I doubt in practice though)
        • In theory it makes it possible for other games to use the same items to make stuff in their games (I doubt this in practice)

        Cons:

        • it’s a fucking block chain
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          Thing is, none of those advantages are real either, compared to a public database and API. Steam’s inventory API already maintains items beyond the lifetime of games, AND you can use items across other games. You can’t manipulate the Inventory of other games but I bet if there was demand (there isn’t) this could be implemented easily.

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          There was an abstract conceptual theory of system agnostic game add-ons. It isn’t… completely inconceivable.

          You could work with a relatively prolific engine, like Unreal, and set up a standard character model dummy with designated hard points for attaching accessories and certain default movements. Then any accessory could simply scale to the environment - Master Chef could swing a keyblade while the Elden Ring guy gets to wear Iron Man armor, because these are all “human” models with well-defined structures that could map to the associated equipment. The blockchain becomes a universal registry for these assets that a platform can read from to render the art.

          The problem is that nobody ever actually implemented this universal protocol. They all just ran off making jpegs of weird animals and running fake auctions to create the illusion of a secondary market. You had zetabytes of data being processed so some Baked Alaskahole could claim his Kumming Koala was worth $40M.

          I don’t even strictly begrudge “the blockchain” as an idea for licensing and data storage (just please don’t ask me to think about who is generating the licenses or storing the data). But it was all vaporware. None of it was anywhere close to being created, much less delivered. People were throwing billions with a b of dollars at entirely empty promises.

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          Collectibles are non-fungible tokens by definition, and blockchain is just a data structure.

          I don’t care about collectibles / NFTs, but this is nothing new in the gaming world.

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          In theory it makes it possible for other games to use the same items to make stuff in their games (I doubt this in practice)

          I’ve heard this before, but there’s literally nothing preventing games from setting up some shared items on their own without NFTs. Nobody does it because companies want to keep their IP, and worrying about external items would be a nightmare to balance.

          NFTs solve like 1% of the problem of sharing items. So much more goes into making them actually work. For example: NFT id 5551337 is owned by the player: now what? How do you figure out what 3d model to render? What actions can you perform? How does it integrate with other systems? All of that is going to have to be custom for every game involved on a per-item basis.

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            Yes, like all things block chains do there are obviously alternatives to accomplish the same thing.

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              Ah but you see, you need the blockchain version in order to be, uh… [checks notes] computationally intensive and bad for the environment…?

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          Then please, enlighten us!

          What is a game that brands itself as a web3 game (not a game that just uses blockchain tech but specifically calls itself web3) that isn’t also play to earn.

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      It looks like the picture in that article is upside down judging by the devices logo on the screen. Are the analog sticks above the d pad and buttons?

      Everything about that device confuses me.

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        Linux is free and open source software ecosystem. It’s like handing people free brushes, canvases and paints - sure, removing the financial hurdles may enable talents otherwise unable to afford indulging their artistic streak, but you also can’t really prevent anyone from painting awful bullshit. Best you can do is not give them attention or a platform to advertise their stuff on.

        That’s the price of freedom: It also extends to assholes. We can’t start walling off Linux, so the best we can do is individually wall them off from our own life and hope enough other people around us do it too.

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      The devs have said in the discord that ceypto features will be totally optional, theyre only there so they could have a partnership with sui

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        Totally optional features that come set up by default are not really optional unless they’re opt-in from the start. Most users are not savvy enough to figure out how to disable that kind of stuff.

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          I would say it’s worse than that. Like knowing that you are selling exp boosters changes the calculus on how exp is earned. If the game played smoothly, there would be no need to sell the boosters and creating the eco system to support it would have been wasted. A system where certain items are nft based would push for these items to be better then the non nft items both for expectation of value, and to raise the trade value to siphon from. This already happens with games with dlc cosmetics. The gear in the games looks increasingly shit compared to the DLC. And that is a natural consequence of polluting the game space.

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    Gaming on Linux will never be easy but as long as it goes forward any good news are welcome.

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      Why would it never be easy? There’s no fundamental reason for why it can’t work as well as on windows, or any other operating system

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        I don’t get all this “gaming on Linux is hard” non-sense. All I have to do is set a specific flag on Steam and click play. That’s it. One step, and 99% of my library just works, sometimes better than on Windows.

        If it isn’t on Steam, I search for it on Lutris and Lutris installs it for me, and I click play. And more often than not, it just works.

        Hell, the mother fuckers that make Final Fantasy XIV’s quick launcher made that shit a flatpak! And it’s so fucking seemless, not a soul would know that game isn’t a native Linux game!

        Where’s the difficulty?

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          Yeah, not all games work on Linux in all situations though. It depends for example on

          • which distro you have,
          • whether you have an Nvidia or AMD GPU (for example, SWTOR evidently runs fine through Lutris, but didn’t last time I tried with an Nvidia GPU, so that might better with AMD—same thing happened with Dragon Age: Origins)
          • what driver for either you have installed (Nvidia is getting better, but good gods the flickering could be better with some of their driver versions—games may play without being playable, after all),
          • whether your computer’s firmware is even Linux-compatible, let alone Linux-friendly (I know Lenovo laptops used to suck in this regard—they might still, though I don’t).

          So, no, although it’s gotten a LOT better in the last 5 years, the notion that it “just works” is only situationally correct, and is by no means correct to the extent that justifies ridiculing those who say that it is not so plug-and-play as what is claimed.

          Furthermore, doing so only sets up new Linux users without the optimal hardware or firmware for disappointment due to unrealistic expectations.

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            My comment wasn’t “Linux works perfectly in every single regard.” It was “Linux isn’t hard to use for the things that do work on it.” I’m well aware Linux isn’t right for every use-case, nor did I say it was, I said it wasn’t hard to use. Compatibility is a separate issue here.

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          Teamcraft can’t sniff the connection in the sandbox to update my inventory amounts automatically. UNPLAYABLE (/s for non-crafters)

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      I know a bunch of people that own Steam Decks, know nothing about Linux, and have no idea that their games are running on it. I’d say it’s pretty easy now.

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    Finally! Some competition with Steam OS! Hopefully only good things will come out of this!