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    …to the surprise of absolutely no one who’s been paying attention. They got rid of the coalmine canary clause like a fucking decade ago.

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        Even Luke, who I always agreed with the most and seemed the most level-headed has talked about their hiring process and said that, if you don’t have personal projects, it’s highly unlikely that you’ll be considered for a position in LTT.

        Supposedly it’s because that shows a “lack of passion”. Personally, I find that rather toxic. Like, dude, I do this for work and I also have a life. I literally do not have enough time to exercise, take care of my loved ones and also maintain personal projects.

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          Well, don’t think their IT positions are competitive when it comes to salaries, compared to major tech companies. Also considering their offices are in Vancouver, you probably aren’t going to work their to make bank.

          It’s a bit of a selection bias out of necessity…

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            *there

            None of the things you mentioned justify having a toxic hiring policy/work culture.

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          I don’t see the problem… having side projects will improve your chances at MANY jobs, and even applying for university if they’re related to your field. Even if you have no time at all, if you’re genuinely passionate about technology, I’d expect you to at least have aspirational goals for things on the side. A side project does not have to be finished or maintained to show “passion”.

          The entertainment company doesn’t want to hire boring 9-5 drones just in it for the paycheck. Big surprise. They’re allowed to be selective.

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            Having hobbies outside of your profession does not mean you’re a “drone”. Quite the opposite.

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              I think you’re completely misunderstanding what I’m trying to say. The hobbies ARE the side projects. They don’t have to be the same as your job.

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                But it’s still sitting in front of a computer programming. I do that but not that often. I’m already programming 8-9 hours a day. My interests go way beyond that.

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                  I have not once said anything about programming in this discussion. The side project could be knitting for all I care. I specifically said it’s not important if the side projects are directly related to your job.

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        Probably the sexual harassment one that’s when I left. The billet labs stuff was bad too though.

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          Feels like I remember that one getting pretty good proof Linus didn’t do anything, but could be wrong

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            People can say nothing was done but the only info you’re going to get is going to be from the accusers. The company isn’t going to speak publicly about it and so we won’t ever know what their views are or what proof they have.

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              They hired an external firm to investigate themselves and they found nothing, while the accuser had zero proof. There is plenty of things to accuse them for, the gamers nexus thing for one, but I’m a bit annoyed about false accusations sticking so hard when there is little reason to believe it. If anything it makes people less likely to believe actual victims.

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                This was my impression. All of their scandals they’ve taken extremely seriously(it appears), done the work to fix and improve, and a lot of their issues seem to be results of fast scaling and organizational level problems that can be fixed.They haven’t just swept things under the rug where they’re able to be transparent. I just think the problem is what Luke has always said: When you open a company up to transparency, you gain criticism, and then the company has large incentives to shut down that transparency because all you use it for is to cause them problems.

                Aside from that, the LTT community and outsiders seem very toxic toward them.

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            Linus wasn’t accused of sexually harassing anyone. His company was accused of being a hostile work environment with sexual harassment by a former worker, but the accusations weren’t against Linus himself. LTT hired a 3rd party law firm to investigate - LTT said the law firm basically said there wasn’t legal liability based on the documentation they could find and LTT used that to absolve themselves and threaten to sue the accuser if she said anything else.

            But this was an LTT hired lawfirm and LTT themselves reporting on what the report said - and since it’s confidential you kind of just have to take their word that they’re accurately reporting the findings. Further there were initially some corroborators of Madison’s story who retracted and apologized quickly (assumingly after being threatened with legal action - Aprime is the example). Besides that a lot of the accusations were things that happened in person that wouldn’t necessarily leave a digital trail so it’s possible even if the 3rd party investigation was completely unbiased that everything Madison said was still true.

            In the end believe what you want but it seems slimy enough that I stopped watching.

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              Yeah you’re correct on the accusations, I should have clarified.

              But with that approach it doesn’t sound like there is anything an organization could do against false accusations that would absolve them of wrongdoing. I’m all for bashing corrupt/horrible companies, but it feels like there should be at least some presumption of innocence unless there is any kind of proof. Painting all accused with the same brush just leads to devaluing the brush IMO. But like you said, people may (and will) believe what they want, and people are under no obligation to watch or support any creator unless they want to. In my case I just haven’t seen any proof of wrongdoing (in this case, gamersnexus controversy was worse IMO).

              What do you think a company should do in that situation, assuming it is being falsely accused? What would a “perfect” response be? I cant think of a much better one than what LTT did, given their circumstances, but would love to hear what a better response would look like.

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                The only thing they could have done better was have the third party release the report. I don’t think they released it yet, but they had intended to at one point. Maybe the lawyers told them they shouldn’t?

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                  Hm, not sure that would be legal even? Considering it likely contained information on different employees etc. But yeah, if possible it would have been nice to see.

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              One of the major accusations was that they asked too much of Madison for a single person to accomplish, and fired her over not meeting their expectations. While this is not great, it’s not legally problematic.

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              Not to mention the law firm they hired advertises anti-union action, so that should tell you whether they can be trusted to be fair to workers…

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      I’ll be that guy. I don’t understand why LTT gets so much crap from people constantly, they seem to have a very toxic community even without the scandals. But in regards to the more recent scandal, I really think a lot of those things are fixable and I’ll be watching to see if they fix them.

      As far as the sexual harassment stuff goes I can see that as a legitimate reason to stop watching. At the same time though, how should we feel with such limited and one sided information? And especially how should I feel if the problems aren’t inherent to the company and if they don’t reoccur?

      Maybe someone can help clear this up for me because I’m not that informed and I’m still giving them a chance but maybe I shouldn’t be.

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        Check the other comment thread from the parent, there’s a discussion which goes into it.

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        I don’t understand why LTT gets so much crap from people

        Because their clowns. Literally. Their content is pure tech entertainment with constant immature humour and little substance. The way they present themselves is like a group of teenagers messing around.

        Then there’s their “expertise”. They don’t know tech beyond a Windows “power user”.

        But in regards to the more recent scandal, I really think a lot of those things are fixable and I’ll be watching to see if they fix them.

        Linus showed his true colours during the Billet Labs incident. He doubled down hard, and I’m convinced that even today Linus feels like he did nothing wrong. They have zero reputation to salvage, IMO.

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          Yeah this is what I mean. I don’t get why people who don’t like their content bother hating them. You don’t like that they mostly exist for entertainment, cool, why bother caring? If you want deep tech dives or something else, there’s plenty of content out there. You’re upset they aren’t more knowledgeable as if everyone making tech content needs to know everything.

          And yeah I did feel like they messed up with the Billet incident and it was one of the more important things they needed to address properly. They made a mistake and I do think that Linus handled it poorly to say the least. They deserved that part of the scandal. All I’ll say is I’m willing to wait and see if they improve or if they make similar mistakes. If that’s a big deal to you, I get that, but that’s not where a majority of the hate is coming from either. It’s coming from what I said before about tech people wanting different content

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            I don’t get why people who don’t like their content bother hating them.

            Because for good or bad, they have a significant influence in the tech world. And since they are more bad, people don’t like them.

            Take the Linux challenge, for example. They massively misrepresented the usability of Linux for the average person and for gamers. They even concluded at the end of their challenge that Linux was unsuitable for most gamers. And the release and success of the Steam Deck shortly afterwards was quite delicious.

            Then there was the bit where Linus didn’t read the warning about the package manager removing the desktop environment and just hit yes, then complained that it wasn’t his fault and that the system was poorly designed.

            The guy literally has an issue with accountability.

            You’re upset they aren’t more knowledgeable as if everyone making tech content needs to know everything.

            A better statement is that I’m upset because they preach their deep and unchallengeable knowledge and act as a be-all end-all authority in tech.

            But really I’m not “upset” by them. I just really dislike them and think they’re insufferable.

            And I don’t watch LTT. And there are plenty of other, and objectively better, channels about tech. And I watch those better channels, including GamersNexus.

            All I’ll say is I’m willing to wait and see if they improve or if they make similar mistakes.

            Their entire channel is a giant mistake. All of their content is garbage by virtue of their proven flawed and subpar provides. A process they admitted was flawed, and from what I’ve seen is still flawed with the garbage corrections in the comments nonsense they promised to fix.

            They’re just going to go about business as usual and just be a little more careful with their public image. They don’t deserve the views they get.

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      Thanks for sharing? Why is every Lemmy single comment section filled with unrelated iamverysmart comments.

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      I heard the legends of the Chinese anthem being at PornHub and took a look a while ago. It turns out that they’ve removed all videos from unverified users and blocked them from uploading.

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    Ironically, watching this video on Osysee results in me consuming more ads that help LTT than usual, because I don’t have SponsorBlock set up for that.

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      SponsorBlock does not change anything about the money they get from sponsorships. So no, that does not help them more than otherwise.

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        YouTube creators can see the view rate for each section of the video, I’d be surprised if sponsors didn’t ask for that data (if just to know the viewer retention for sponsor segments at the beginning vs end of the video)

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          They talked about it in the WAN show and they do not share that data as of a few months ago.

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          They talked about it in the WAN show and they do not share that data as of a few months ago.

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            They way I uderstand your comment, LTT is big enought so as to negotiate contracts with sponsor without being forced to share the metric related to the performance of the sponsored segment.

            I doubt that’s true for many creators.

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      Why did you not set it up? I think they added it recently and when I found out I instantly enabled it. It also works for Invidious.

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        Because I’ve literally never watched an Odysee video on Firefox on my phone before that, so I never felt the need.

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      Yeah, I got tired of his videos half-assing the work and the failed reviews hurting small manufacturers while Linus doubled down after GN documented their failures.

      But this I can get behind.

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        Doubled down? After being called out they slowed the upload cadence, are taking more time to make sure mistakes don’t get through, and changed their production process. They also formed a volunteer team of “beta tester” viewers who see each video pre-release to catch any mistakes they didn’t internally. I think they handled it well. Of course it would be better if they didn’t have a problem in the first place, but I’d never call it “doubling down”.

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          After being called out, this genius doubled down on his actions and defended his methods all the while inserting an ad right in the middle of a response video.

          It was then that he lost my respect.

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          They said they did all that. But actually Watching the videos? It’s the same shit as before. Sloppy edits, errors in the comments etc.

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          Not initially. Linus mouthed off as he likes to do on his own podcast before eating crow after GN reinforced their claims.

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            Yeah, I don’t like Linus all that much but I do enjoy LTT’s content overall. He tends to drastically and publicly overreact to literally any criticism, and then the rest of the team gets involved and he walks it back. Whether they legitimately change his mind or just convince him he’s gotta look like he’s changed his mind I have no clue.

            My favorite instances of Linus are when he’s an absolute idiot on the WAN show and we just get to see Luke’s reaction live. The hard-r thing was absolutely hilarious.

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              but I do enjoy LTT’s content overall.

              I used to as well, up until the storage server video and their Linux challenge.

              I lost every shred of respect and interest after Linus showed his true colours during the Billet Labs nonsense.

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              Yeah Luke’s look of “oh no bro, stop” is pretty much a staple of the WAN show.

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          There was an initial reaction from Linus on his forums where he massively doubled down on his stance that he had not done anything wrong with the review model LTT had auctioned off without permission (I can’t remember the name of the company). He had even accused GN of not following “journalistic standards” by not giving LTT a chance to put their side forward.

          This was met with another video from GN, and overall criticism over the dismissive attitude Linus was displaying. That’s when they came out with a YT video, admitting their numerous faults, and Linus himself admitted that the way he responded on the forum was not acceptable.

          Pretty much doubled down initially, till they realised that they’re in actual deep waters.

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            He has a legit point that Steve did not give LTT a chance to comment. “He doesn’t have to!” Maybe. But he gave the other side a ton of airtime/chances to comment. It was very one sided and while GN made some good points, it felt like a hit piece. And Linux, imo rightfully, felt a little betrayed by a guy he’d worked with in the community.

            His reaction wasn’t great but it was that of a guy who was defending his team and from someone he’d probably consider a ‘friend’ impugning his integrity and dragging them without giving them any opportunity to comment or even letting him know it was coming–two very common practices/norms.

            A unflattering view of GN vid is that he felt threatened by LTT labs entering the space and he wanted to get out in front of that an expose"how unreliable" they are. He didn’t give LTT a heads up or allow them to comment because he knew they’d have a solid response. He blindsided him on purpose.

            All that said, GN did Linus a favor. It accelerated his transition away from CEO and forced them to review their dumb production rates and the videos that are coming out now are better than ever.

            Ironically, it left a sour taste in my mouth about Steve and I haven’t watched any of his videos since.

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            Fair enough. Still commendable for taking the heat himself without ever mentioning which employee made the mistake with misallocating the review item to the charity auction.

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              It is, but it also genuinely isn’t their fault.

              He pointed to their failure at inventory management because the fact that they didn’t have a functional setup for it is a systems problem, not the individual.

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            I would wager money on the suspicion that deep down, Linus probably still thinks he did nothing wrong.

            And that the actual change only came about because the people around him (like his wife and executives) threatened/forced him into changing positions.

            Cause we got a good glimpse into the kind of person Linus was when that whole thing started, by selling the prototype that wasnt his, then going out and lying about being in contact with the company, who he lied about forgiving him and making a deal to make up for it… Which was quickly rebuked by GN asking the company if Linus had contacted them, to which they said “No”

            And the kind of guy that does that kind of shit, isnt the kind of guy that suddenly goes “Okay, I screwed Up, I did it, I’m sorry” without someone behind the scenes threatening catastrophic personal consequences.

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              Cause we got a good glimpse into the kind of person Linus was when that whole thing started, by selling the prototype that wasnt his, then going out and lying about being in contact with the company, who he lied about forgiving him and making a deal to make up for it…

              10’000%

              This is what all his rabidly loyal fans miss. He showed true colours during this incident.

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          That was AFTER the backlash increased after he doubled down.

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          Doubled down?

          Yes, doubled down. After being called out Linus made two separate long posts about why he wasn’t wrong.

          They also formed a volunteer team of “beta tester” viewers who see each video pre-release

          So using free labour instead of just doing their jobs? If they can’t “catch any mistakes internally”, then they’re just bad at their jobs (which they are).

          I think they handled it well.

          Yes, the PR team they used gave them a good corporate playbook to work with.

          “Slowed the upload cadence” is just another way to say “wait for this to blow over”.

          I used to watch LTT, mostly because it was interesting from the “let’s see what those guys have to say”. I had zero interest in their technical expertise because, well, they don’t really have any. They’ve always been clowns, but after their storage server video and their Linux “challenge” I lost all respect for any talent or knowledge they claimed to have. After the Billet Labs incident I lost any shred of respect I had for them.

          They are clowns.

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            You live in a fantasy world if you think it’s possible to catch 100% of mistakes internally. Even safety critical equipment with many layers of checks fails and kills people every now and then (medical equipment, bridges).

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              You live in a fantasy world if you think it’s possible to catch 100% of mistakes internally.

              Nice strawman. No one said anything about catching 100% of mistakes internally. But outsourcing that work to unpaid volunteers with zero verification of qualifications is the definition of “passing the buck”.

              The correct answer is to hire and train up a QA team.

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    It has been reuploaded already with a nice “re-upload” added in the thumbnail.

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    I don’t see any mention of the YouTube adblock trick, so from the vid:

    Copy YouTube URL. Paste it in Bing and search. Scroll passed Bing’s sponsored bullshit and click on the thumbnail for the video you searched. It will then play, still in Bing, with no ads.

    So if you’re on a work or government or w/e computer that doesn’t allow installing adblock extensions, there ya go. No downloads or anything, just YouTube and Bing.

     

    …this is the first time I’ve ever had any interest in using Bing, lol.

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    Friendly reminder that pirates didn’t usually stole gold. Piracy was stealing shipping goods, then selling them for profit at some port. Digital piracy is thus defined as acquiring, and then distributing for profit, media that you don’t own the copyrights of. Ad blocking is categorically not piracy.

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    Reddit is curiously silent on this matter. Their SJWs are usually all over shit like this.

    Wouldn’t surprise me if their new deal with Google has some influence on which posts go down the drain, and which ones go to the front page.

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      SJWs

      Ah yes REDDIT. The website that famously does not have any safe spaces for conservatives.