It’s me again with another question for recommendation 🙈 This time I am searching for a new Email-Provider:
Currently I am using mailbox.org (privacy-friendly provider based in Germany). Since my subscription is comming to an end there, I tought about switching to proton mail-plus. What I like about them is, that they have an easy way of creating alias-emails and also support the option to use your own domain.
But maybe you gals and guys have another great provider which offers good features for a good price.
Also: I dont need Cloud-Storage or anything like that, so just mail is fine.
Thx in regards :)
I use posteo.de which costs 1€/month. It is simple, but works fine.
I quite like Fastmail. It’s a bit expensive but the service is very reliable and they have a well established reputation. You can create masked emails using their domain or your own from the web interface.
Proton?
Another thumbs up for tuta.
I only know 2 good providers: Proton and Tuta.
do they allow you to create anonymous accounts by paying with monero? And connected via TOR browser?
Hey, I outlined some tools in my list here! TL;DR is Proton Mail + addy.io is as good as it gets, with Tuta and SimpleLogin as close contenders. Good luck!
Proton purchased SimpleLogin in 2022 and the creator/dev has been working there ever since. Also, you can easily create random email aliases in Vaultwarden/Bitwarden via the SimpleLogin API.
Proton purchased SimpleLogin in 2022 and the creator/dev has been working there ever since.
I knew this, I’m trying not to keep my eggs in one basket.
Also, you can easily create random email aliases in Vaultwarden/Bitwarden via the SimpleLogin API.
This still requires a SimpleLogin/Proton account, so there’s no added benefit. Plus, this is true for Addy as well.
i already bookmarked the list, great work btw. I will look into the options you wrote.
Fair warning though, using a service like addy.io with randomly generated emails can go bad if they ever shutdown, you’ll be left with tons of accounts on email addresses that no longer exist.
It’s better than using the same email for everything, which still runs the same risk. I try to minimize the services I use that require an email for this very reason. I will note, self hosting + addy.io provides much more control with the same benefits and drawbacks.
Oh for sure, the better alternative is your own domain with either catch-all or self hosting something like addy.io, then you don’t have any risk of losing those email addresses (assuming you don’t let your domain expire).
Check out Posteo!
They are very cheap, only $1 for 10 aliases and then then $0.1/month for any additional aliases. But can’t pay with monero.
Can anyone here comment on countermail.com ?
Runbox, a privacy-focused email provider out of Norway. Our family has been using it for years with zero issues. The prices are very decent.
I looked inyo runbox and it looks like a really good option. what concerns me is, that it is hosted in Norway and that Norway is part of the “Fourteen Eyes alliance”. Would you still recommend it?
Can I open an account with TOR browser and pay with monero without having to give any info like a secondary email or phone number?
Another vote for Runbox. Been using them for almost 5 years now with no issues. They are also an employee owned co-op if that is of interest.
Somehow I always end up hating Proton. I was using TOR Browser to create an account and they wouldn’t let me. I had to give either another email or my phone number, and I’m not willing to do either. I even tried creating a throwaway with mailbox.org (works using TOR) and sending the confirmation email there but it never arrived, so I gave up on Proton.
I also tried Tuta and they wouldn’t let me create an account at all using TOR. So eventually I’m sticking with mailbox.org
This also provides you with more freedom as in freedom as you aren’t forced to use their Clients/Apps.
Yeah I think it’s cool that you can even take control of your private keys. Although I’m thinking it also adds another point of failure / exposure if not done correctly.
Yeah. One of the major reasons I never plan to use Proton or Tutanota is that none of my email apps will work and I will rely on whatever interface they provide.
Just a reminder: with Proton you can’t use IMAP for your email client, you either need their mail client (mobile) or bridge app (desktop).
While technically true, bridge is ultimately an IMAP server you run yourself … and they do have good reasons for this design.
do you know theit reason?
Imap and end to end encryption are not possible at the same time.
Bridge exposes an IMAP interface but encrypts everything as Proton would, had you used the web client.
It solves a technical limitation.
oh so only when using their client I have the e2ee for the emails on their server? kind of makes sence but def. a point to take into consideration.
No, I think you are misunderstanding my poor explanation.
Your emails are encrypted at rest on their server regardless if you use the web client or IMAP through the bridge.
The thing is that the encryption layer must happen at some point in time when you communicate with their API:s. In the web client this encryption is built-in. IMAP on the other hand does not support this type of end to end encryption, so the bridge adds this layer for you.
So you communicate unencrypted locally between your email client (Thunderbird for example) and the Protonmail bridge that you have installed locally on your computer. Then Protonmail bridge encrypts and decrypts all emails for you. So to your email client, it seems like a normal email server, but in reality everything is encrypted.
(Standard “encrypted email” disclaimer: Your emails are not encrypted in transit unless both parties, sending and receiving, are set up for encryption. Email is otherwise not end to end encrypted in transit)
Proton Mail?
I have proton for many years since I started de-googling. Very happy with it.
I don’t think the email alias thing comes with Mail Plus, it’s part of Proton Pass. You either need to get Unlimited which includes all of their products or pair mail plus with the paid version of Pass. There’s a chance I’m wrong because I have Unlimited and haven’t really explored it, but look into it before you commit.
You get 10 aliases on mail+
How does the bridge work? Do i have to have it open all the time?
Personally i use proton with my own domain
same here. Proton with own domain!
I use Proton and really like it, but I don’t know how to go about using my own domain (though I am interested in it). How difficult is it for someone without webdev and self hosting experience to get set up?
You can start here: https://proton.me/support/custom-domain
Step 1. Get your own domain. I bought from porkbun. This was a difficult choice for me, having heard /read cases of domain hijacking by unethical domain sellers. Porkbun had decent reviews. Step2. Follow instructions on protonmail custom domains. Wait for all the greyed out tags to turn green. I was impatient and my domain was marked as spam by Spamhaus. Had to open ticket with them to get off their list step3: enjoy!
additional steps. I moved my dns provider to cloudflare if you wish to go that route.
