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    When, I think of “socialism,” I think of modern day Scandinavian health care, not Soviet-era Russia. Who do these pants -wetting idiots think they’re scaring?

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      Well, considering the election results in Europe and the US, they are scaring a whole lot of people.

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      Who do these pants -wetting idiots think they’re scaring?

      The boomers who grew up during the Cold War and who continue to have better voter turnout rates than Millennials, even as the latter generation sneaks up on their 40s.

      Like…I don’t agree with their policies, but their tactics are objectively effective.

      This isn’t an endorsement of conservative fear mongering but rather calling out my fellow Millennials, who’ve recently surpassed boomers as the most populous generation in the US.

      Show up and vote, god dammit.

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        who continue to have better voter turnout rates than Millennials

        One of the biggest determining factors of enfranchisement is home ownership. Boomers got to plunder the real estate that prior generations had extracted from the First Nations. That land was commoditized and collateralized such that subsequent generations had to pay an enormous premium to get access to it.

        Subsequently, home ownership rates after the Boomer generation plunged. More and more property is monopolized by business conglomerates and simply rented out rather than sold. People move more often, chasing lower housing costs and higher wages. So they never develop a local identity, join a local political party, or invest in the long term interest of the community where they reside.

        They don’t know who their politicians are or why they should vote for any of them. So they don’t participate. And then they leave an area rather than fight to defend it if the political leadership starts fucking the place up, because they don’t own any of that land anyway.

        Show up and vote, god dammit.

        The Boomers vote with their ballots.

        The Zoomers vote with their feet.

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      It’s just American corporate FUD. Either you’re a complete balls-out capitalist, or you’re an ultra-commie. Nothing inbetween. Mention the EU and they stick their fingers in their ears and yell

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      Ah yes scandinavian healthcare where I can’t get my doctor to give a fuck about my back pain because people under 30 don’t have back pain obviously

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        I’m in the US where my doctor doesn’t give a fuck about my autoimmune condition nor answers any questions I ask except for just renewing my prescription and I have to pay $300 every visit for it

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        There will always be some incompetent people in every profession. I’m sorry your doctor is one of them

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          It’s an systemic problem in Denmark. I don’t know anyone in my area whos happy with their doctor

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            Hopefully the system can be changed. It’s evident that it needs to be addressed after the discovery and public rage against the monetary practices.

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      When, I think of “socialism,” I think of modern day Scandinavian health care, not Soviet-era Russia.

      One of the upshots of the Great Patriotic War producing so many invalids and disabled veterans was a Soviet state dedicated to providing top quality public services for its veterans. An entire municipality - Rusinovo - was built to cater to the blind, in order to accommodate the number of Soviets who had lost their sight to chemical weapons and other injuries. It became a model for a host of disability-friendly improvements to cities the world over, and you can still find them if you know where to look. The Tokyo subway adopted the Rusinovo model for raised, guided pathways, for instance. And audible signals at crosswalks and in city metros are common mass transit features globally.

      After the fall of the USSR, much of the country was privatized and subsequently looted by the Yeltsin-friendly oligarchs who endorsed the coup against Gorbachev. Rusinovo was one such target for looting. The school for the blind was defunded. Factories specifically geared to allow blind workers to participate in the manufacturing center were shuttered and stripped for parts. The transit network was gutted.

      Who do these pants -wetting idiots think they’re scaring?

      Post-Soviet Eastern Europe is regularly held up as the consequence of Soviet Economics taken to their logical conclusion. So you’ll routinely see Western politicians point to states like Estonia or Solvakia or the shattered remnants of the Yugoslavian Republic as proof of the Failed Socialist Experiment.

      What you don’t typically hear is the rapid deterioration that occurred after the USSR was dismantled and partitioned off under Yeltsin. Or how much of the Soviet Era wealth was stolen by mafiosos and corrupt agents operating on behalf of western business interests and rival espionage agencies nce the Iron Curtain was torn down.

      In some sense, its a lie. “Look at how awful it is now! That’s because of the socialism they did back then.”

      In some sense, its a threat. “Try socialism again, and you’re next.”