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Interesting side-note, reddit’s anti-VPN policies and blocking some archivers like ghostarchive.

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    I’m already less and less on reddit except for a few nieche subs. The day old.reddit is gone will be the last time I visit that site.

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      I’ve been back on lemmy for a month after a long break and it feels permanent this time. I like that I can generally replace /r/<sub> with lemmy.world/c/<sub>, that helps.

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    My guess, break existing old links on other sites so that they can show a graph with a drop in usage of less-ad-riddled way to access the website and drive more to the ad enabled views.

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        Yes but on other sites where people have historically posted the shortened direct sub urls that used to go to old.reddit will now forward to new reddit or be broken according to the comments of the OP post. That’s the key difference here. Posts people made many years ago will now go to new reddit, which is why I suspect specifically attempting to manipulate user / site stats because even if their api prevents search engines from using it properly, there’s a wealth of already indexed links out there.

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      Seems like millions of redditors say just that through the many slaps in the face to users, then hang around anyway. :S

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    People should talk about Lemmy more. Irl, on other social media, in game chats, etc.

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      3 days ago

      Just sharing a personal experience here: I reached out to my country subreddit mods yesterday to ask if I could create a post about Lemmy in the context of the latest Reddit decisions preventing strikes.

      They told me they would not allow it as it was self promotion, and that I should stop mentioning Lemmy in comments where people complain about Reddit.

      Very frustrating when you see how active communities like [email protected] is, as the subreddit mods promoted Lemmy during the 2023 strike

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          I don’t listen to them, they are the ones who remove mentions to Lemmy on their sub. They already banned me in the the past for that, so this time I checked before hand

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        The mods that stayed want to keep their power, they’re not going to allow links to communities they’re not moderating.

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        ich_iel on reddit still promotes Lemmy in the Sidebar, Automod comments under every post and a tab at the top of the page. The mods of the country sub refused to move, but most of them are dicks anyways.

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        It just means the existing mods are more interested in holding on to power than for the wellbeing of their community, even if that means they’re unpaid disrespected jannies for spez.

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          Even though they could just make their own Lemmy communities, or ask to be appointed as mods of existing ones…

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            Mods want people to lord over, the more the better. There are many times more at reddit.

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    For what it’s worth, the primary reason I joined lemmy.world, in particular, was their offering of old.lemmy.world

    I’m old and stuck in my ways. I love the old-timey feel of the “old” UI in light mode with endless scrolling turned on.

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    Remember when Reddit said they wouldn’t touch old.reddit?

    People understand they can just leave that site, right?

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      I wish more people would leave and bring their niches over here. There’s still so many things missing on Lemmy.

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        I feel you. Really miss 40klore and an endless stream of bunny pictures. The only two things I miss on Lemmy. Everything else I care about arrived or is arriving.

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          I think the frustrating part is that if those people just moved over to Lemmy, nothing would change about the communities. Lemmy today is robust enough to handle these communities. It’s just a matter of getting a community to switch servers.

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            Subscribed to both of them. Also to the Grimdank offshoot we have. Very much enjoy all of them.

            Didn’t try posting lore or excerpts tho. Might try it when I come across something cool!

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        It is near impossible to start a new community. The Lemmy code primarily favors existing large communities, and it needs to change to heavily promote new communities over existing.

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          What do you mean “favors”? Like the algorithm pushes them to the top when viewing “all”?

          I don’t think this is that big of a deal. The niche communities rarely reach the front page anyway. But people know to check them cause they care about the topic.

          Maybe google SEO is a factor too. When I am lttp for a game or a show, google almost always has a link to the reddit sub on the first page.

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            I’ve kept at several, no one submits posts even after several weeks of submitting starter posts. It’s just very difficult. People just seem to like the status quo because it’s easier. I had to give up on [email protected] because almost no one was posting but me for an entire month, well that and plus I just ran out of things to post.

            Trying [email protected] now, I’ll probably keep at that since public policy is a huge personal interest. It’s had some activity but it’s like trying to run up an escalator backwards with a 100lb pack blindfolded and drugged. lol. /c/politics even added it on the sidebar and there is almost no posts except mine. Posted links in several other communities including /c/newcommunities .

            It’s just hard, not sure why my above comment was downvote so much. It’s hard, not impossible, but hard. I feel like it would benefit Lemmy if the devs were to modify the algorithm to promote rising new communities over existing ones to even the playing field. They tried with scaled sort, but I don’t think people use it much.

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              Trying [email protected] now, I’ll probably keep at that since public policy is a huge personal interest. It’s had some activity but it’s like trying to run up an escalator backwards with a 100lb pack blindfolded and drugged. lol. /c/politics even added it on the sidebar and there is almost no posts except mine. Posted links in several other communities including /c/newcommunities .

              Curious about this one, politics seems a very popular topic on Lemmy. Did you post to [email protected] and others?

              I had to give up on [email protected] because almost no one was posting but me for an entire month, well that and plus I just ran out of things to post.

              That’s a very common experience. We have regular threads on [email protected], this is definitely a recurring issue. On the other hand, if you can find someone to post with you, it feels very good.

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                Yeah it was posted to /c/politics and actually pinned for a few days. Had a lot of traffic from that while it was up but no regular posters. The problem was though there was a lot of pro Russia trolls and aggressive commenters. If it’s going to grow it needs to be reeeeeal slow, so I can’t really post about it much.

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            Giving your own posts an upvote when you’re at 0 subscribers works wonders. I remember posting in the original version of RoughRomanMemes for literal months without significant interaction until I did that. Something about the ‘active’ feed I guess.

            Once the community is grown you don’t need to do that anymore.

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            A little bit everyday. :) It was the same on Reddit until enshittification started, probably around the time porn disappeared from the front page. Lemmy is actually way easier to start communities on than Reddit is now.

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        I have so many posts to share, questions to ask, and things to do…but Lemmy is not as robust with users. And I refuse to participate on reddit. I need an /c/ xbox360hacks.

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          Every tv show I watch I have to go to Reddit to view the conversation. And bite my tongue cause I refuse to log in and give content.

          Same with watching the political debates. That was my preferred method of conversation.

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            Same here with various niche things. Reddit had a much higher percentage of jerks, though, so I’m overall better off not participating there.

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            Which shows are you in? We had some episodes discussion on [email protected], but they never really took off. If you are interested in a show, you can maybe try posting there and see if other people want to discuss it with you?

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          I got answers and engagement from communities that seemed dead on Lemmy due to lack of users. You should just try to ask your questions… One answer that truly helps is already enough usually, you don’t actually need 100 users upvoting the same answer or 12 different answers where only 1 is good. For many things, low engagement is already sufficient.

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            Yeah, I browse All on Lemmy which I never would do on Reddit, and engage with whatever posts I connect with. I wonder if there are others who do the same.

            Posting to new or “inactive” communities I think is less of a shout into the abyss on Lemmy compared with Reddit.

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        I’m not sure there are enough people who would be interested in my niche hobbies (locomotives and outdoor warning sirens) to warrant communities for either lol. Trains maybe, definitely not the other.

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      Anyone paying attention knew it was just a matter of time. I used to think my last day on the site would be when they got rid of old. Turns out it was before even that.

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    they even got rid of the login button lol. having a small userscript to insert the login button as html works tho as the method/css remains.

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    They have already been trying to bully old.reddit users for quite some time by forcing a regular cookie acceptance prompt which automatically changes the settings to new reddit.

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    tbh if you need to see a reddit post use a frontend like redlib it doesn’t have signing in with a reddit account but atleast you can browse a post without tracking

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        The amount of people in the world is a pretty insane number, which makes “almost nobody” 8800 users visiting per day just on lemmy.world, and it’s still growing pretty fast.
        I’m fine with reddit doing their shit for the masses, and the ones with a bit more critical sense coming here.

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          It’s not nothing but reddit claims about 270 million weekly active users. So it’s ultimately a difference of about 270 million (especially given that some active users here likely still use reddit and aren’t strictly a loss for them)

          It’s a good thing though. The fediverse needs to grow a bit to feel less like a ghost town on less popular communities but when you grow too much you become a shitty community filled with bad decisions and poorly thought out compromises