#quietpartoutloud

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    3 months ago

    Damn, it sounds like he’s implying that we need to get rid of evangelical Christians - the largest crime committing block in America.

    (Obviously we shouldn’t get rid of any group based on such broad generalizations - he’s a fucking asshole).

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        This is the closest thing to a study on religion in prison I’ve ever found and the prisoner statistics are obscured by whether chaplains considered them extremist - the clearest piece of data is that 44% of chaplains (a plurality of them) are evangelicals. It’s a really shaky statistic though so I wouldn’t draw on it outside of dunking on idiocy from the GOP

        Study: https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2012/03/22/prison-chaplains-exec/

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        3 months ago

        I’m assuming they mean that Christians make up a huge percentage of the US, so therefore they probably make up a large percentage of criminals. I’d be interested if evangelical Christians now make up the majority of Christians.

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      2 months ago

      The great irony of eugenics is that the only real measure of the long-term health of a population is its genetic diversity, which leads to the exact opposite conclusion of eugenics. If you want your “race” to survive and thrive, you should interbreed with other races, not try to cull and “purify” your own. There’s no such thing as good or bad genes, because that depends on the environment which is constantly changing. Eugenics is just wrong in every possible sense of that word.

  • TehWorld@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I’ve stopped bothering with links from RawStory. It’s all just ragebait headlines. There’s a nugget of truth and I’m encouraging everyone to vote blue up and down the ballot, but these AI generated articles aren’t really helping. There are a few sites that are the same all up and down, but this is one of the worst.

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      3 months ago

      That’s not blood libel. Blood libel is the obviously false claim that Jews eat christian babies, often in the form of Passover matzoh. It has modern descendants like claims that “they” are turning your kids trans and if you get deeper you see those quotation marks turn into echo marks.

      This is eugenics. It’s also Nazi ass bullshit, but it’s one Americans have far more blood on our hands with. A hundred years ago we in the United States were openly engaging in forced sterilization of minorities and disabled people and in doing so inspiring the German right. We still haven’t tamped out eugenic sterilization here, even when it was widely agreed to be the horrendous crime against bodily autonomy that it is. This is fucking terrifying as far as rhetoric goes

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    3 months ago

    NYT: “Did Trump say immigrants have ‘bad genes’? MOSTLY FALSE. Trump was actually critiquing immigrants’ choice in denim jeans.”

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    3 months ago

    Is history repeating itself this blatantly? And the people who are voting for him still believe they are morally correct.

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    3 months ago

    Something I’ve noticed more and more is how prevalent killing, murder and death is in Hollywood produced media. The vast majority of popular movies and series either start, involve or end with somebody being killed. And its almost laughable how high the disregard of human life is portrayed to the masses. Look at any other motion picture productions, say Korean, Indian, French, British, etc., even a single person dying in a story is seen as a very huge deal. Same thing goes for violence in general. Even if the character decides to take the high ground and not kill their nemesis, they still die in the end by other means.

    I think this image of death has led a lot of Americans to adapt the attitude of “It’s fine, as long it doesn’t happen to ME.”, which in return can be capitalized on by telling them “It’s fine we’re not talking about YOU but about a THEM.”. They’ve seen people die on a screen so many times that if it happens for real and is shown on the news, it is regarded as entertainment rather than a horrific tragedy.

    Seriously, in classical storytelling often times the whole story revolves around a single death. But in Hollywood the scenes often involve something along the lines of [good guy takes out a bunch of bad guys]. This could also be why US gun culture has gone absolutely insane over the last 30 years. They all want to be the cool action hero taking out the bad guys, but forget that their hero is a sociopathic murderer by all standards.

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      3 months ago

      Have we looped back around to blaming media for violence again? This was disproven in the 70s with rock, the 80s with dungeons and dragons, the 90s with metal, and the 2000s with anything anti war or America. Can we stop trudging up this argument? Please?

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        I’m not blaming media for violence. I’m blaming it for the desensitization towards violence. There’s a big difference. Its like the difference between somebody saying “I’ve seen somebody die before.” and “I’ve killed somebody before.”.

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          Yeah, desensitizing people to violence is the original argument. It’s always “if they’re willing to shoot people in video games, why not real life!?” Crap.

          It’s been disproven so often that my shitty little uni assigned that research to first year psych students. It’s not a thing. Media is a reflection of society, not society itself. Violent societies like violent media. Violent media doesn’t create violent societies. Propaganda based media can, but no one’s committing murders cause they saw Knives Out or played COD 23

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            3 months ago

            So what about the US Army being heavily invested in Hollywood for the benefit of their image and increase of recruitment numbers. Is that not a direct link between media and violence? Or is all that military money spend in vain?

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    3 months ago

    It’s so sad so many will brush this off.

    I cant be more ashamed then I am of my fellow country men. I knew shit was wrong growing up. I did my best to stay out of their way but to see it so clearly in their politics I just can’t anymore. Americans are a ravenous people. We harbor them. We protect them. That is what we are.

    Eugenics getting freely discussed by a presidential candidate. Shame on me. Shame on all of us.

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      3 months ago

      It’s nice to hear when someone realizes that Trump is not the problem, he’s the symptom incurred by a mental disease that so many people seem to have.

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        he’s the symptom incurred by a mental disease that so many people seem to have.

        It’s basically a new religion, right? If this what fills the vacuum when we let go of the old religions… Is it an improvement? It certainly makes me want to be less critical of your average Christian/Jew/Muslim/Flying Spaghetti Monster worshipper.

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        Many of us are plagued with the “not us” syndrome. They hear about the awful events that shape our history and say, “not us, not here, we are better.” Deep down we have to believe that but when you become so delusional that all you can say when faced with any truth about the world around you is “not us” you’ve got a problem.

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      Shoot the dictator and prevent the war? But the dictator is merely the tip of the whole festering boil of social pus from which dictators emerge; shoot one, and there’ll be another one along in a minute. Shoot him too? Why not shoot everyone and invade Poland?

      In fifty years’, thirty years’, ten years’ time the world will be very nearly back on its old course. History always has a great weight of inertia.

      -Sir Terry Pratchett

  • "You have seen people in this courtroom, you have seen them at this trial, you have met them in your life, have every reason to respect them, to love them, to appreciate them, except that maybe one of their ancestors going back and back and back to where perhaps they had ten thousand ancestors, and one of them was black or partly black, and he has to be a hewer of wood and drawer of water and all of his generation, to the end of time to be cursed that way by those who think their blood is pure.

    Of course, the marvel of it is that there is not any such thing as pure blood.

    How far can you go back in yours, how far can I go back in mine? I knew who my father was and who my mother was, and I know who all four of my grandparents were, but when I get back of that I am lost in obscurity and night. I know they came from New England. I hate to admit it, but they did,–pure Nordic.

    MR. TOMS: New England Nordic?

    MR. DARROW: New England Nordic. Isn’t it awful? I know it. I had to bear it and get along with it the best I could for all these years. For all I know they may have been related to Jonathan Edwards. From there they go back to England, but what of it? Gentlemen, I don’t know where they came from back of that or that far, and I know that back of me and back of you is an infinite ancestry stretching away back at least five hundred thousand years, and we are made up of everything on the face of the earth, of all kinds and colors and degrees of civilization, and out of that come we.

    Who are we, any of us, to be boastful above our fellows?"

    Clarence Darrow, Esq., in the successful closing argument in defense of Ossian Sweet

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    3 months ago

    I don’t fucking get the right.

    “Evolution is evil it says we’re monkeys!”

    “Genetics means we can have better blood lines!”

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      They don’t actually understand any of those things. They just think white skin, blue eyes and blond hair equals Uber mensch and thus the divine right to rule the world. And just like the Nazis, the fact that most of them don’t actually conform to the qualifications they dream up is beyond them. That’s why you see those pictures of Trump as a muscular Jesus, they are very detached from reality.

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        Right, but that’s the crazy part.

        In their mind I’m genetically superior, but only because of my appearance. Then if I come out and say “but I’m not genetically superior” they get pissed off because yes I am and I’m a traitor.

        How can they possibly be comfortable with stating one thing both is and is not good?

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          It’s funnier cause they claim blue eyes are superior when in most of the world it isn’t, especially when the world is heating up more and more and we have less ice and snow.

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              It’s a thing that’s being studied but apparently it’s also true for reindeer which turn their eyes blue during the winter to help them see better in low light conditions and brown in the summer when there’s better lighting.

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                Ha, man, I thought I was crazy, I had no idea. My ancestry was largely from northern Europe - but my Dad did a lot of astronomy and typically had me find things for him when we were out in the field. He always said “because you see things better than me” which I thought was absolute horseshit because I’m near sighted and he’s farsighted.

                Maybe I did because my blue eyes actually helped a bit.

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                  Definitely a possibility. All life on earth is actually insane in how it works and why. Even the simple looking things like the color of our eyes.

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                Its basically also why people closer to the equator have darker skin.

                • Too much sun = skin cancer
                • Not enough sun = vitamin D deficiency
                • Too much melanin = needs vitamin D supplements in the Arctic winter
                • Not enough melanin = skin cancer prone skin
                • Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  Yep and by that same logic the ubermensh are actually gonna be the ‘inferior’ (not that I believe any of that) species with the climate change that same people love to deny.