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I don’t really like the new name yet, but it’s a lot better than Minetest so I really can’t complain.
Why is this news??
Why isn’t this news? They are changing the name which is a big deal
I dunno. Doesn’t seem like a big deal to me, but your mileage may certainly vary.
Man, I saw them initiating discussions around the name like a year ago. I did not expect anything to actually come from that after all this time. But yeah, glad that it did.
Now we just need a better default font. 🙃
And maybe a really solid UI design. It seems like a not of games don’t have a good UI.
Is this an out-of-season April Fools’ joke?
I’m sure it is
That woul’ve been: Minetest Immortal
No, it is something that has been discussed for quite some time. No one could decide on a good name until now
One could argue they still haven’t
Since Minecraft blew up with 12 year olds using potatoe hardware I think the criteria required would be:
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12 year old thinks name is great and can spell it
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it can run on a potatoe
Who wants to volunteer to collect this data
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You could argue but you would be wrong. The name gas changed. There is still some work needed to move domains but that’s minor.
Gonna miss the old one but I definitely had to go. I kinda like Luanti too
Oh thank god. Minetest was the worst name, and the game is actually pretty cool. It definitely deserves a cool name, and Luanti sounds cool.
I was so scared it was going to be something silly.
hope they improve upon it, the old (when the banning was implemented) version of minetest was horrible. I’ll be trying it soon :)
It has come a long way. These days it doesn’t even come with a game preinstalled. You can play VoxeLibre, Asuna, and so much more. Plus the original Minetest game is still installable. Also there are quite a lot of mods and other content available.
The only gripes I really have is the security and UI design. Neither are that bad but they could be better.
What is the problem with security?
Online play is 100% unencrypted or authenticated. Client executes lua code sent by the server. I hope the code is kinda sandboxed but wouldnt put my hopes up there.
As far as I’m aware, most of the “dangerous” lua api (io/network etc) is blocked and only available to mods during the startup phase, and not otherwise during runtime.
But I’m sure there are workarounds. For one, I’ve written mods with rust for it, and you can require and then call any dynamic library through lua, with all of the io and networking you’d want, as long as it is brought in during the init phase. And the mods that do access the “dangerous” api, have to be explicitly given rights to do so (but again, by the server, not the clients) in the config before it works.
It’s not that bad for the most cases, as long as you trust the server. If playing single player, you personally control which mods get the secure environment access, so at that point it’s entirely your own fault, if you get exploited.
I hope they can build on some work from the lua devs. Isolating stuff like that is not always easy. But given lua is used extensively for embedded scripting, there is a good chance they can.
Also there isn’t necessarily a clean environment between mods. This means one mod could modify another mod.
Did they ever fix the game having a maximum map size of like 10.000 by 10.000? That limitation always seemed to put it at a disadvantage compared to Minecraft, for larger communities
Currently, the world dimensions are larger than that (according to the wiki):
“Minetest’s world is a huge cube with a side length of ca. 60000 blocks. Each dimension (X, Y and Z) ranges from −30912 to 30927.”
That’s better than I was thinking. But still, nothing beats “infinite”.
I find the increased world height much more important. Luanti can generate actual mountains, and caves where you’ll want to bring ladders for your descent.
It was the first time, I felt like it made sense to build minecarts and intermediate mining bases, because the ores reach far deeper.I played some minetest and then looked at Minecraft. Is minecraft really limited to -64 +256??? I read it a couple of times but still can’t believe it. Ho can a game with °mine° in its name be so limited? More like Buildcraft Imo.
I believe, they increased it a little while ago, so it’s actually -64 to +320 now.
But yeah, I don’t think anyone’s actually happy about the limited world height. It’s so limited, because of the way Minecraft works on a technical level. It loads the map in chunks, which are just massive pillars, reaching from the bottom of the world all the way to the sky, across the whole 384 blocks.
As a result, if they increase the world height, they increase how many blocks have to be loaded at once, which increases the lag.
Luanti doesn’t have this problem, because it uses cubic chunks instead.
That’s a really interesting point. Neat!
erm achumally it goes to like 3 bajiklion until there is a world border 🤓👆
minecraft is not infinite there is a world border by default that makes the world about 60 million by 60 million blocks
Okay, but I mean, 60 million versus 30 thousand. The former is effectively “infinite”, I mean how many hours would it take you to walk that far?
KurtJMac started Far Lands or Bust in 2011, and reached 9.9 million blocks earlier this month.
Minecraft is not infinite
Yeah, I hear that. Although, I’ve travelled many thousands of blocks in Minecraft worlds, I’ve never travelled tens of thousands, so the limits in Luanti work for me. The increased world depth in Luanti seems more beneficial to me. YMMV
It is basically infinite. I would be very surprised if you could reach the end. Having a pregenerated map also makes the game a lot lighter. (At the cost of longer world creation)
Yeah I also never reached the end, though I imagine if playing multiplayer, with enough players and time, that then at some point there won’t be any untouched land.
They fixed that quite a while back. It is 60000x60000x60000
I hope this is a joke cause Luanti sucks, stick with the already well known Minetest.
Minetest is a terrible name. It was created back when it was experimental with no plans for continuous development or direction.
It will take time to switch to the new name we will get there
ok boomer
True though
I actually like the new name. It seems like when a community project renames it always is something even worse than the original name. This is a great name that doesn’t sound silly to say out loud.
What a terrible name.
Anything is better than minetest which sounded like a hastily written debugging mod for Minecraft
It’s nice to see open-source things copying what dot-coms do when they’re bored.
Wait. No it’s not. It’s actually worrying.
I worked for a company named essentially “The Portland Office”, and it had that name for 30 years; because, honestly, who cares about a name? The product should stand out.
Even if you can objectively see the name as just a name, many people sadly can’t. It is really difficult to recommend others to join, just because they come with the idea that it’s a minecraft clone and since it’s not a clone it feels janky.
I’m glad they dropped the name for something new.
Literally just yesterday my wife learned of Minetest’s existence and said it was a terrible name
It IS a terrible name. But it also is an over one decade old brand.
It will be hard to propagate the new name and have it as recognizable as “Minetest”.
Those in open source circles will see through places like GamingOnLinux, Lemmy, Reddit and the official IRC/Discord. Those that don’t find out probably are no where near the open source gaming community so it won’t really matter.
Just tell her that you told them your wife didn’t like the name so they changed it.
“good news honey, they heard your complaint and renamed it”
the new name is equally terrible, at least in terms of pronunciation.
Lu-aunty
I’ve seen it a few times in passing and always assumed it was like, a tech demo or proof of concept.
It initially was that. Also the name wasn’t meant to stick around forever.
But, out of a sudden, between updates, not even the new website URLs ready?
I don’t follow Minetest development that closely anymore, but last time I checked there were no issues or pull requests on their GitHub, nor something official regarding a name change in the forums.
This feels like there are just a bunch of people haphazardly deciding there is a new name now.
Here’s a post from May in the
MinetestLuanti forums discussing the name change: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=425205#p425205I’m not going to search further to find the original discussion, but another user in this thread mentions seeing talk of this about a year ago. I agree that it’s not very professional for the new website to be in a less than functional state, but it feels like excitement or decision fatigue may be the culprit, not a rushed process. Then again, it’s an open source video game, not everything has to be “professional” all the time. Meanwhile, enjoy this meme from luanti.org:
I’m not going to search further to find the original discussion, but another user in this thread mentions seeing talk of this about a year ago.
There were plenty of those threads and discussions happening during the past few years. This is a constant topic that came up in the forums and sometimes GitHub over and over again.
Yes, and in the last twelve months those discussions clearly accelerated, and that post made it clear the lead/original dev had made their mind up. Which very much negates you saying this was rushed.
It made sense at the time…
I like the meme.
I just wish they would merge the “truly infinite worlds” branch. The horizontal limits are to tight for this kind of game.
