So I’m no expert, but I have been a hobbyist C and Rust dev for a while now, and I’ve installed tons of programs from GitHub and whatnot that required manual compilation or other hoops to jump through, but I am constantly befuddled installing python apps. They seem to always need a very specific (often outdated) version of python, require a bunch of venv nonsense, googling gives tons of outdated info that no longer works, and generally seem incredibly not portable. As someone who doesn’t work in python, it seems more obtuse than any other language’s ecosystem. Why is it like this?

  • ravhall@discuss.online
    37·
    8 days ago

    This isn’t the answer you want, but Go(lang) is super easy to learn and has a ton of speed on python. Yes, it’s more difficult, but once you understand it, it’s got a lot going for it.

    • lime!@feddit.nuEnglish
      4·
      8 days ago

      it’s also not at all relevant. go is great, but this is about python.

        • lime!@feddit.nuEnglish
          5·
          8 days ago

          this is not about offense! nobody is offended. but if you ask me for help with an apple pie and i tell you to make meatballs… it’s a confusing lack of relevance.

          • ravhall@discuss.online
            12·
            8 days ago

            I did lead with an appropriate request for a sidebar. I just feel the rip about context was even less appropriate. And apple cobbler would be a better comparison. Apples, just different.

            • lime!@feddit.nuEnglish
              3·
              8 days ago

              it’s not though. op has issues installing programs built in python. suggesting they rebuild those programs in go is 100% an apples to meatballs comparison, and way off topic.

              • ravhall@discuss.online
                23·
                8 days ago

                They should get those same programs, but for Go. I’m sure someone has made whatever they’re doing. It would work better.

                • Orygin@sh.itjust.works
                  13·
                  7 days ago

                  You’re not wrong, but you have offended the python guys for suggesting they use something other than their toy language.
                  I personally look away when I find programs I want to use that are written in python. I don’t have time to play with all that BS just to run a small software on my machine. Go is my go-to (heh) but any other modern language would be fine.

                  • lime!@feddit.nuEnglish
                    2·
                    7 days ago

                    such a strange interpretation. i’ve been working in go for over 10 years now, and i love it. but the notion that you can “just find the same program but built in a different language” doesn’t make sense at all.

                    like, if you’re annoyed with pandoc being written in haskell and clogging up your system dependencies, you can’t just “find another pandoc”. there’s nothing like it. same thing with curl, or xonsh, or thingsboard.