• Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
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    4 days ago

    Looks a bit insensitive but it’s not even expressing support for Israel’s war.

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      4 days ago

      He expressed support by making an avoidable visit. Just like I would express support to the wife beater in my neighborhood by having lunch with him.

    • chobeat@lemmy.mlOP
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      4 days ago

      If Israel is a colonial project, any relationship fueling its economy is supporting the war. This includes touristic activities, investments, any kind of business.

      The BDS movement worked against South Africa because it was totalizing and any chance to suffocate the Israeli colonial project must go through the same strategy.

        • GBU_28@lemm.ee
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          I’d say the only “reasonable” objection would instead be on the pervasiveness of the conclusion. You can’t walk out your front door and remain consistent on that.

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            4 days ago

            Right on, second time noticing you here today. You’re right again. When I replied the comment was at -2 and now it’s +9. I think several people have alt accounts for vote manipulation. Good thing votes don’t mean shit!

            Edit- My only complaint with the app I use, Sync, is that it only shows total votes and not individual totals.

            • astropenguin5@lemmy.world
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              I use voyager which lets me toggle what I see (I actually switched to individual recently) and the comment I assume you’re talking about is at +19, -9 votes, and was about the kid who shot the home intruder

              There are lots of down votes on both sides of that thread tho

              (Also subtle voyager plug)

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                  3 days ago

                  As in the one you replied to? That one is +9, -0 So people either changed votes or there was weird federation things going on

    • Ms. ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml
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      4 days ago

      I’m trying to find out a list of companies using stripe and I think it would be easier to list ones not using it… What I’m getting is basically any time I spend money online, and sometimes in person, they get a cut

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        4 days ago

        Yeah pretty much. As a payment intermediary they’re actually really good. Top of class one could argue.

        The executive’s politics aside, trying to boycott them means boycotting all their users. Good luck with that.

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          I have to pay a parking fine one through stripe. I would have happily boycott that.

  • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    4 days ago

    so basically he didnt actually do anything boycott worthy. he just had a bunch of perpetually online lefties and righties throwing a tantrum on twitter

    • Brewchin@lemmy.world
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      Dunno why you’re getting down voted.

      I visited Israel 10-odd years ago for work and I loved it. Beautiful country and people… if you ignore all the politics. As with the US.

      What I hated while there was the demonisation of everything Palestinian. It’s like a cult: if you don’t agree, you’re one of them. (Get fucked).

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        It’s the timing.

        Israel is currently engaged in a genocide. Some guy talking about how much they love all the beautiful things about Germany in 1942 would get down voted to hell too.

    • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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      Yeah,I had this discussion in other subs but let’s say that I was less successful

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      I have family in Israel and have been there several times. I liked it there. I liked how all the signs were trilingual and the food was excessively good. I don’t however approve of the Israeli government or how they’ve gone about this conflict.

      Does this make me a bad person in other peoples eyes?

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        Timing matters. I have family in Austria. I like a lot of things about Austria and I also don’t approve of a lot of things the government does and did.

        If someone were to have voiced that sentiment loudly in 1942, they’d probably be an asshole.

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          So from your definition, me having family there and having some positive sentiment about some things I experienced there quantifies me as an asshole.

          I find the prejudgment interesting. I used to only get this from right wingers for being Jewish but now I get it from both ends haha. Take care!

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            Your post completely ignore my first and main sentence.

            It’s the timing that makes you an asshole, not your sentiment.

            Israel is currently engaging in genocide. I know it. The UN knows it. Dogs know it.

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              Good… good . Fight about another country. Split apart. The imperfect are unclean. Give no quarter.

              The left will never unify and the right will win.

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                If any part of the left is OK with genocide the right is already winning and the only hope is to split with them.

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                  No one is OK with genocide.

                  Reasonable people focus on banding together to accomplish goals. Do you think shaming someone for visiting family helps you stop the genocide? If every American stopped going to Israel, would that stop it? Please.

                  This is something the right gets correct every time. They hold their nose and tolerate some things they hate so they can make progress on their other goals. Then when those are done, they do it again and again. Eventually they have what they want.

                  They understand that real change is a long game.

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            Just putting it out there, you are not. Your deeds and intentions are what define you. And there is no race or nationality that makes you inherently bad or good.

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    So you’d rather use the platform run by treacherous robbers called PayPal ? So we can’t use Stripe (ok fine) & we can’t use PayPal, ok any suggestions ? Cuz I got one GNU-Taler

    • explodicle@sh.itjust.works
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      3 days ago

      Why deposit your money with a central authority? The linked website points out that Taler adds instant confirmation to Bitcoin, but you can already get that using the Lightning Network - without custodial risk.

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          Your wallet stores digital coins that are blindly signed by an exchange. The Taler Exchange keeps funds matching all unspent digital cash in a settlement account. (Source)

          When you add dollars or bitcoins or whatever to Taler, you’re making a deposit.