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Kid@sh.itjust.worksM to Cybersecurity@sh.itjust.worksEnglish · 1 year ago

China bans use of Intel, AMD and Nvidia Processor Chips for security concerns

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China bans use of Intel, AMD and Nvidia Processor Chips for security concerns

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  • andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works
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    I can’t read the article for it opens some 1x1 gif at loading, but I suspect they’d only need to write a long form proof of why they need to use exactly that foreign brand for their work etc, and probably if they also have the leverage to do so (so many get filtered out, maybe). That’s how it works in Russia for plenty of years after we proclaimed we’d replace imported goods with something we don’t even produce lol.

  • ✨️❄️🌀❄️🧊🌨🧊❄️🌀❄️✨️@sh.itjust.works
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    in… creasing?

    better than outcreasing i guess

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    This reads like fake news. No publication date, no sources listed, very vague and self-contradictory on the details. How is no other news outlet corroborating this?

    I’d take this one with a huge grain of salt.

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    This must mean that they’re getting cheaper in the West now, right? Right?!

    • f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz
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      Chinese rejection -> “Supply chain issues” -> Price goes up. Again.

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    Maybe they will be investing towards RISC-V chips?

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      They already have.

      • qyron@sopuli.xyz
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        Good. Pump that up. I want to be able to run my favorite open OS on open hardware.

        • Refurbished Refurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org
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          Worth noting that just because a CPU uses the RISC-V instruction set does not make it open hardware; it just makes it possible for it to be open hardware, but it’s still up to the copyright holder to release the source files and design as open source.

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            Fair, but it means devs will write software that can one day run on open hardware.

            • Refurbished Refurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org
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              That’s true, but open source software is generally written in high level, portable languages that can be compiled to multiple CPU architectures without changing the code, so proprietary software is really what would have any problems running, and even then, there are x86 emulators like Box86/64 and FEX out there and can even work transparently using systemd-binfmt.

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                At the application level? Yes. At the OS / package level? It’s still a work in progress. And you need the latter to use the former.

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            Still, better than fully proprietary hardware.

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              In a small way, yes, in that the software ecosystem built around it would work on future open hardware, but the hardware could absolutely still be fully, 100% proprietary.

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      Woule be best case scenario for pretty much everyone except, well, all the companies currently in the space. And western global hegemony.

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        All empires will tumble

  • YaDownWitCPP@lemmy.world
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    I laugh at your decadent Western technology!

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    L!!! Mao

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    Do they have x86 alternative? Or are consumers still allowed to buy x86 computers? Unclear in article if ban for “businesses” is ban for businesses that make computers using the chips/boards to sell to others.

    Has arm gotten good enough for desktops?

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      Apple uses Arm for their desktops, including the Mac Pro workstation. I don’t know of anything upgradable/customizable like x86 Desktops though.

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      They do. But the performance is pretty bad

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      Yes they have comparable CPUs from Zhaoxin, which is joint owned by VIA and Chinese government.

      Russia also has Baikal.

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        Surprise surprise.

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    Down with AI art

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    In other news, Zilog stock sees unprecedented growth.

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      Precisely. They’ve finally stolen enough IP to make replicas of these banned chips and keep all the profits.

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    I wonder how long it’ll take for the next Stuxnet to hit Chinese and Russian lithography machines.

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    deleted by creator

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      deleted by creator

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    I mean… They’re not exactly wrong for this, especially with Intel.

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    Sooo, all chips basically.

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      Raspberry pies and MacBooks across the realm.

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      those fools forgot about lays 😎

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        Lays makes good chips. It’s too bad that they’re really only good for the data center market, since you can’t have just one.

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          deleted by creator

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      Except for the ones made by the Chinese government.

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      They started making their own a while back.

      Edit:adding link https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiconductor_Manufacturing_International_Corporation

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    … Nvidia?

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      no vidya?

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