yeah I have used mate and another thing like it which I can’t recall its name but its sorta nicer. Pricier though and honestly not as much nicer as it is priceier since mate is so cheap. so mate won on that front but I still pick up the other stuff or have a mind to as its nice. I mean I say more expensive but again mate is cheap so its no more expensive than standard tea. kumbucha I can’t really handle doing and the store bought stuff is waaaayyyy to expesive.