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Obviously, there is True, False and FILE_NOT_FOUND
Better than having your gender datatype being a Bobool3ol and evaluating to “Tru(🍒🎂🍒)lse”.
My gender is e, which can be represented by neither integers nor floating points.
Can it be expressed or represented approximately in IEEE-754 form?
Everything can be represented approximatively.
e = π = 3
Always approximated, never truly represented 😞
No taxation without approximation!
Unless your encoding has a special value that, by definition, is euler’s constant :p
Good point. Specifically code point U+2107 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ℇ
Ah so ur gender can be represented in UTF 8.
Approximation is an important tool for compressing information into useable forms. All labels are limited approximations too. Such compression is inevitably lossy, but that is a sacrifice for the sake of practicality. The important question is what level of compression is acceptable for a given context. If I describe the location of a chess piece on the board, I don’t need to specify how far off-center on its square a given piece is, so a 0-7 offset along each of the two axes is enough for game purposes.
When it comes to gender, I think we all agree that [0, 1] is insufficient, but how do we determine what is sufficient? Do we argue that a 2-bit vector (masc, fem) is enough to describe {neither, fem, masc, both} for rough rounding, or do we need more detailed values along those axes, or perhaps a third axis too (or more)?
This is a very nice and effective blurb, I’m saving this comment for future use
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Honestly, “I found this useful/interesting/amusing/worth leaving a positive comment avout” is the only award I need. Thanks for the words of appreciation ❤️
Maybe a byte using bitflags?
No Y = 0
Presence of Y = 1
Looks like you can express it with binary if you want, though you would need an interpreter
except that genetics isn’t that simple, there’s many many things that go into structuring your body. Even biological sex isn’t binary, there’s plenty of overlap. People can literally be born with both sets of genitals afaik.
That’s already accounted for in my example
Imagine confusing gender and sex in 2025
Imagine enforcing gender roles by treating them as separate things
We could do laps on this all day. In the end if a trans person says they’re trans and this is what it means to them, I’ll take them at their word.
Of course we’re taking people’s words for it
It would be weird to force people to do a genetic test every time they meet someone new
That’s not relevant to the discussion
Least sensible discussion I’ve been in in a while
Suit yourself bigot
That’s a chromosome you encoded there which is one of a few markers that define sex, not gender.
Same thing
It’s meaningless to who the individual is, unless you’re a conservative that believes playing with dolls or wearing makeup makes you a girl but then I don’t care for your opinion
Yes, chromosomes are meaningless to who someone is (except edge-cases).
No, sex and gender aren’t the same.
You can have a partial Y chromosome or transfer of Y genes to the X chromosome during meiosis which can result in a person with both sets of sex organs, or more rarely, no sex organs at all. Even genetic sex cannot be accurately represented as one bit (let alone gender identity).
Why are conservatives so obsessed with people’s genitals?
In both of those cases you can determine whether a y is present or not
for one, a person’s genitals are not necessarily a direct indication of their biological sex, even without considering bottom surgery
You’re confused, I was saying that
The person above me was saying otherwise but I think they’re a mean person because if someone was in an accident and lost their parts then they would say they aren’t their gender anymore
I might not fully grasp what you said, but from my understanding, they were discussing intersex people. In these cases, it’s not an either/or situation at birth regarding sex characteristics or chromosomes. It could be a mix of various combinations, or sometimes none at all. The Y chromosome might not be fully present, which means a penis might not exist at birth, or it could be very small (and possibly non-functional for urination), but there may still be internal testicles (which I understand is quite common for some “types” of intersex ppl). In your interpretation, does this mean that there are individuals with a Y chromosome and then there is the rest of the population?
So, we have XY, XYY, XXY versus the others, who might have just one X, two Xs, or a partial Y (I think there were other combinations too). That doesn’t seem very binary to me. It’s like saying you’re either a kid (under 18 in most countries) or an adult, which doesn’t cover everyone and doesn’t say much either. But maybe we took your comment too serious.
However, labels have always been a tool to simplify life, and they have never been strictly binary. It’s similar to organizing a home with labels, there is always at least one drawer labeled other/miscellaneous.
There are as many intersex people as there are redheads, and they can have two sets of sex organs, no organs, or a combination of organs. This wide category range is why the person you responded to mentioned the parts, as these visibly influence how one’s sex is documented. Intersex conditions can sometimes make this categorization extremely challenging.
I appreciate the depth of your answer
Under my system they would still fall under the “has Y” or “Y absent” grouping
I do think a genetic blood test at birth would fix that issue of misidentification but since gender (y vs no y) should be meaningless to the majority of people, because everyone is equal and free to express themselves, it’s not worth the cost of doing it until there’s a need to affirm someone’s gender
any “n-bit value” fails to model nontermination. clearly a pointed dCPO.
lets burn down our civilizations by spending all our wealth discussing this
The issue is based on legal terminology. Gender isn’t a legal thing only pushed into our vocabulary.
Allocate an unbound memory blob and sit back for the herd of the Rust coders to line up. Sell them a soda while they do their best chicken parody
Removed by mod
Ayyyyy wanna smash bros?
Choose one class of gender:
- Natural
- Rational
- Irrational
- Complex
this is p-adic gender erasure
It is definitely complex numbers in polar form
That’s a very quaternionphobic list.
As it is not stable I’d go with a database.
Sqlite.
Better go with MySQL to ensure foreign keys comstrains
not sure i want strains of com in my gender
0100100100100111011011010010000001100001001000000111001001101111011000100110111101110100001000000110000101110100011101000111001001100001011000110111010001100101011001000010000001110100011011110010000001101101011000010110011101101110011001010111010001110011
There are 2⁶⁴ genders
Maybe it can be represented by 1qbit
literally discussed with my friends the other day that gender is like a vector in Hilbert space
I don’t think so, because with qubits the intermediate values can be non binary but the end result must be binary when read. Unless you wanna make a joke about filling out government forms I guess lol.
So many other things are also non-binary, but people insist that not being 100% on their side means you’re a million percent on the extreme opposite hateful wrong side.
Absolutely. My baseline is that I want everyone to be treated equally and with respect. I want everyone have the same protections from the government and everyone to be allowed to be and to love whoever they want.
Past that, it gets into minutia I just can’t get on board with and it’s hurting the left as a whole because people are trying to force language and thought policing on people, which I don’t like, it’s authoritarian, and I think it’s a losing strategy.
It’s been said that indecisiveness and perfectionism are liberal weaknesses, and decisiveness and being willing to ignore imperfections for the sake of the team are conservative strengths. I think Michael Moore put it best… Liberals say, “What should we do about dinner? I don’t know… do you want to go out? I dunno, do you? Well, if you do. Okay, where should we go? I dunno, where do you wanna go?” A conservative slams his hand on the table and says, “Get in the car, we’re goin’ to the Sizzler!”
A lot of the userbase here thinks this way and it’s very tiresome
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long longlong long man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-1Ue0FFrHY
I have PS2
