Early car sales data for January is starting to arrive from countries across the pond, and they paint an alarming picture for Tesla. Sales are crashing in France, Germany, and the UK—all affluent countries that are key markets for Tesla’s electric vehicles. Coming on the heels of a large financial miss, it’s just one more problem for the automaker.
Tesla sales dropped around 13 percent across Europe in 2024, but so far this year, the scale of the problem is far greater. In France, sales of new Teslas fell by 63 percent, while total car sales in the country fell by just 6 percent, with EV sales dropping just half a percent.
Germany was already looking like lost ground for Tesla—its 41 percent drop in 2024 accounted for most of Tesla’s lost sales across Europe. That must make the 59 percent drop in German Tesla sales recorded during January even more painful on the profit and loss statements.
Across the Channel, the British auto industry just released its sales data for January. Here, Tesla sales fell less precipitously—just 12 percent. However, battery EV sales were 35 percent higher in the UK in January 2025 than in January 2024. The cake is growing, but Tesla is getting to eat less and less of it.
In fact, no Tesla cracked the UK’s top 10 best-seller list last month, something that has regularly happened in the past, although that may be due to having just two models for >sale in most markets.
Large declines have also been recorded in Sweden (44 percent), Norway (38 percent), and the Netherlands (42 percent).
Honestly people would have to be basically mad to buy tesla now, same with twitter etc.
I sympathise with people who starlink is the only option but yeah I’d rather go without.
I recently bought a camper van and was planning on getting starlink so I can work from the road (not full time). I guess I’ll have to make sure I’m not off the beaten path on work days and stick to Hotspot.
This is the way. I wish more people would accept what is quite literally only minor inconvenience in the name of starving these insane companies. We honestly have it so good in most of modern society, and some things are just totally optional imo.
Thanks
Yeah sad thing is I can understand Starlink being the only option for some people, so yeah I wouldn’t blame you for using it.
Having competition tends to do that 🤷
Read that Tesla pushes December in Norway for padding end of year numbers, resulting in a stagnant January. I think that concutive stagnant months is what would indicate how sick we are with Musk
As usual, in the end the workers will pay and the owner(s) will walk away slightly less incredibly wealthy.
Biggest decline in my country is because lease companies don’t like them in their fleet anymore; Musk has just randomly reduced prices in the past, making it difficult to estimate the remaining value at the end of the lease term. On the other hand business drivers used to have a generous tax exemption when driving an EV, which has been cut by our government. These drivers may now be better of driving an ICE. All in all this reduces the market share of Tesla drastically, since Tesla’s are almost exclusively used as company lease cars.
May every business that brings this man profit tank until he learns some empathy.
Rich people don’t have human emotions.
Being rich literally turns you into a sociopath or psycopath.
Hoarding that much excess wealth induces mental disorders.
The only solution is to redistribute their wealth
Hoarding that much excess wealth induces mental disorders.
I was wondering if epigenetics may speak to that, in some cases
The only solution is to redistribute their wealth.
For the rest of us. I’m curious if it addresses the sociopathic tendencies of the original wealth hoarder?
ETA: that was a quick search for that study and I certainly don’t understand it well.
I don’t think taking away their money would instantly fix their sociopathic tendencies, but it would allow them to actually engage with real human society again and the community and experiences from that would help to build empathy again.
But the reason for stripping them of their wealth is that they’re dangerous, we don’t give nukes to violent schizophrenics.
But the reason for stripping them of their wealth is that they’re dangerous, we don’t give nukes to violent schizophrenics.
This is being very vividly illustrated, irl.
Sure am glad all the car companies decided to use the Tesla charger as the standard. /s
It’s an open standard now, it doesn’t really matter that Tesla was the first. So it’s a good thing, kind of like iPhones switching to “Android charging cables”.
Anyone still driving a Tesla needs a bit of verbal abuse.
Tesla ownership is its own punishment.
Maybe they just like the car. Not everything has to be political. Especially if they get it 2nd hand, the depreciation is huge. So someone could get a nice Tesla for great money. Doesn’t mean they like Elon or support him.
Buying 2nd hand is greener and doesn’t support him.
It does though, their most profitable (as in profit margin) businesses areas are the subscription based services and charging.
When the owner is that political, it becomes political though. “If 9 people sit at a table with one Nazi…” etc etc.
Sure, I’d judge someone if they bought a new one recently as well, but I think you’re being a bit unreasonable. Not everyone can afford to switch cars.
I don’t know about abuse but I do judge people with Teslas purchased in the last 5 years. Before that the completion was lacking and it was less evident to most people that the CEO is a cunt, but now even if you ignore Elon, it’s just a crazy purchase when all the other manufacturers have caught up in electric and arguably produce better vehicles with less issues.
I’d be interested to see some market analysis that looks into the reasons for the sales declines. In particular, how much is driven by poor product quality versus how much is due to Musk being a knobhead.
Maybe Musk should sue them…
Get trump to tariff them. Or buy them, like Greenland!
Let’s get to 95% down in Q1 of 2025.
I’m not going to sell a perfectly useable Model Y after a year just because the CEO is a cunt. But I’m going to tell everyone that he’s a cunt with 30 stickers plastered all over the useless rear window
Sell it to who, Ben? Fucking Aquaman?
Good choice, no point throwing it away if it was too late for you to realize, but it’s more powerful as a platform to disavow Musk and Tesla.
The US is collapsing and all I got was this lousy car
Fair point. I won’t judge Tesla drivers. I’ll judge Tesla drivers that don’t have a load of stickers on their car.
I’d judge Tesla drivers if they bought the car this year.
lol. Stupidly I didn’t consider that anyone would still buy one. New or secondhand.
Yeah, I mean who is their market now? Anyone who isn’t a nazi or ignorant isn’t going to want to be seen driving one. And I get the impression that right wing folks are more into fossil fuels.
I get the impression that right wing folks are more into fossil fuels.
Yup. I’d say they’re intentionally stupid.
To be fair, he has been a cunt for way longer than a year.
I remember headlines of people burning their Nikes when they learned the company was woke or something. Burn your car mate, that’ll show them for sure!
Well for obvious reasons. But also bcs their product is crap quality. My neighbour keeps on pouring grand after grand for stupid repairs into his model S
That can’t be, teslas never break and don’t need maintenance. Many people said it, smart people
Nearest repair center is 2 hours away
No one wants to drive a swasticar.
“Europe and the UK” did they move the UK to another continent, or did they mean the EU?
So, I hate to be the breaker of bad news, but the UK has left the EU 🤷 Don’t shoot the messenger
Read the comment. EU - maybe, but not the Europe,how do you leave a continent?
Give it a couple million years of plate tectonics.
Or maybe if everyone jumps up in the air at the same time.
The UK and Ireland are part of the same plate as Europe. Anyway 2 million isn’t even that much time for continental drift, If you traveled back in time to the Jurassic that wouldn’t be a significant difference between the layout of the continents then and the layouts of the continents now.
Yes but not the continent despite what certain people would like
Except for Jutland, the same could be said of the 400+ islands that make up Denmark. Yet Denmark is universally regarded as part of Europe, despite the main landmass/island pedantry.
The islands are still on the same plate, so they are still on the same continent.
EU ≠ Europe
Europe is a continent. The European Union is a group of countries in Europe, no longer including the UK.
Maps like this are the only way my feeble American brain can process complicated European things.
The EU one has camo painted seas, so I needed several seconds for my understanding of “what is where” kicked in. I wonder how they got this stupid idea
It’s probably a more accurate colour anyway. I’ve seen the channel, it is mostly just gray.
Great Britain and the British Isles are geographical terms, not political ones. Sometimes publications will say Great Britain to mean England, Scotland, and Wales, but not Northern Ireland but they also don’t include things like the Isle of Man in that even though technically Great Britain does include the Isle of Man.
Unless the conversation is explicitly about geography, and land masses you should not use anything other than the United Kingdom.
Great Britain is the name of the big island that England, Wales and mainland Scotland sits on. The British Isles include Great Britain, the Isle of Man (and also Ireland, the Isle of Wight, the Hebrides, the Shetlands, the Isles of Scilly and (debatably) the Channel Islands.
Unless the conversation is explicitly about geography, and land masses you should not use anything other than the United Kingdom.
You’re not the boss of me, bruv. The United Kingdom doesn’t encompass the Crown Dependencies (Jersey, Guernsey and the Isle of Man) which have the same monarch as the UK but are (at least within certain limits) self-governing. So if I want to talk about them (and sometimes I do, my conversation occasionally involves tax shelters and motorcycle races), restricting myself to the UK won’t be sufficient to include them.
This post unfortunately leaves out the all important Council of Europe (not to be confused with the European Council). 😉
While entirely correct, the Irish get very antsy about being included in the British Isles. It’s a “colonial relic” is probably the nicest version. So yes the map is correct from a British pov but not from an Irish one.
Ukraine is a candidate country, by the way. Since June 2022.
https://enlargement.ec.europa.eu/european-neighbourhood-policy/countries-region/ukraine_en
You see there was this little thing called Brexit…
Oh right, is that when they moved to a different tectonic plate?
Oh I see what you’re saying. Yeah, they probably should have said EU but it’s a little pedantic to pretend you didn’t know.
Welcome to the internet.
Tru dat.
Yes.
You know exactly what was meant.
The UK is technically on a few islands, one can use Gibraltar to argue, of course, and historically English crown did possess lots of land in Normandy, Anjou, Aquitaine and even Flanders, also that union with Hannover, but ahem.
Bunch of EU countries have land outside the mainland though
Most of their land you mean? EU yes, Europe has many definitions
Quick Elon, sue every EU citizen for not buying your car!