• hendrik@palaver.p3x.de
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    Lol. Why do you focus on the third sentence in or something and somehow assume the 2 sentences before, containing 100% propaganda and misinformation, wouldn’t count towards propaganda and misinformation, but somehow it’s this one thing? Just tell me how an democratically elected president, who is still backed by like a vast majority of the citizens is somehow an authoritarian ruler?

    And why do you keep having the same problem every 4 weeks?

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      9 hours ago

      Lol. Why do you focus on the third sentence in or something and somehow assume the 2 sentences before, containing 100% propaganda and misinformation, wouldn’t count towards propaganda and misinformation, but somehow it’s this one thing?

      I’m not sure what you are asking here

      Just tell me how an democratically elected president, who is still backed by like a vast majority of the citizens is somehow an authoritarian ruler?

      Democracies are filled with elected politicians power tripping, see global security law in france, germany government beating and arresting environmental activists or the orange man in USA deporting immigrants. Ukraine is under martial law which is a suspension of democracy and a form of dictatorship. Drafting people by force and arresting them if they try to leave the country is an authoritarian practice and a violation of people rights.

      who is still backed by like a vast majority of the citizens is somehow an authoritarian ruler?

      I wonder if you check any poll before making this statement or you just assumed it to be the case

      And why do you keep having the same problem every 4 weeks?

      Not sure what you are asking here either

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        You sound to me like someone who gets their news straight out of some propaganda machine. And you just regurgitate that and spew it out… Since you want me to do my research. Did you do your’s? Have you been to Ukraine recently? Did you check the poll? Because it’s certainly out there and I’d love to hear about the intricate details on how they did it wrong. And have you been part of a protest in Germany? Because last time I did was 2 days ago. And it didn’t quite match your description. And I think nobody questions whether Ukraine is under martial law. There is a war waging in their country and people are literally dying. So you don’t really need to repeat that every two sentences. Everyone is already aware of that.

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          8 hours ago

          You sound to me like someone who gets their news straight out of some propaganda machine.

          I was commenting on a post at [email protected]

          Did you check the poll?

          I’m not the one claiming zeleskyy is or isn’t popular among ukrainians. All i know is that some people died trying to cross the border which point out that not everybody is ok with his government.

          And have you been part of a protest in Germany? Because last time I did was 2 days ago. And it didn’t quite match your description.

          I’m gonna assume what you were protesting was not the genocide in gaza or the climate crisis.

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            But that would still be a democracy, wouldn’t it? I mean that’s just concerned with how a government works and how it’s backed and in relationship with the people.

            And yes, I’ve not actively participated in those kinds of protests for a while… But I went past some minor ones and had a brief look at them. Plus I know some people who do such things. So I have relatively direct access to information.

            And yes, people might be agitated. But I’m not sure if I get your point. Are you interested in Germany’s society and democracy? And the fine nuances of our democratic processes and the police force and how good they are at their job? I mean there definitely are issues, we’re not perfect. And there are both structural issues and people who are unfit for the job. But does that make Scholz a dictator? I’d say no.

            So… What’s the last Israel or climate crisis protest in Germany you’ve been participated?

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              If scholz were to pass martial law they would turn into a ruler that more resembles a dictator.

              Anyway the “democracies” we live in have more in common with a dictatorship than the perfect ideal of democracy one has in mind. Go protest a topic your government doesn’t like (gaza genocide for germany) and you will be treated close to how anti-war protesters get treated in russia.

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                6 hours ago

                So, why are you right on that? Did you try protesting gaza genocide? Did you see what happened?

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                  I remember quite well some videos being posted here on lemmy like the police chasing the kid with the palestine flag.

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                    So your source is in fact internet propaganda… Do you know why they did it? Or what happened to the boy after?

                    Police deemed a protest including violence and vandalism wasn’t a good place for an unsupervised 10 year old boy. So they took him out of there, whether he liked it or not. And proceedingly returned him to his father. That’s it.

                    I mean I wasn’t there. But I have no reason to question the validity of that. And looking at the video, these policemen and women were super chill. They didn’t lay a hand on that child. They barely touched him. And they completely ignored the protesters and bystanders throwing things at them and the kid. Which is very remarkable IMO. Usually if you throw things at police, they don’t like that at all. Especially if they’re not wearing a helmet.