is trough leftism like a trough urinal?
No, it’s where you share your oats, brother
New flavour of leftism just dropped. I personally am more of a piss leftist.
i think i’m a pissing outside sometimes leftist
Could already have had two terms of Bernie (or Gore too), but humans, eh.
certain, specific humans, have a great deal more culpability than others.
less useful blaming billions when a couple dozen people engineered the choices for the rest of us, especially on climate.
the biggest problem opposition groups have nowadays is targeting the wrong people to oppose. I know who my enemies are and it’s not so self defeatingly simplistic as humans = bad.
leftism
In a sane world Bernie would be considered a centrist.
Bernie was the compromise. now it’s Luigi time.
he is, globally
Isn’t he at least center left?
Not on the global scale.
Not on an American scale either. This bullshit about the “far left” is targeted right at him.
Actually there is one way. And I think you know what it is.
I think Capitalism is reaching a dead end, just as Feudalism had. We will need a completely different approach, specifically designed to bring prosperity and political agency to every person. A rebuilt constitution that isn’t just about political rules, but also economic.
These times will either cause Americans to show the way forward to the globe, or be a disastrous example to avoid repeating. Either way, the American Experiment is reaching a crescendo.
I’m 50:50 there will be another election. And I’m 50:50 on it being rigged if there is one.
Even if we have one, and it’s not rigged, the Dems are proposing absolute jack shit for the people. So I don’t see how they could even win a fair election.
We need a new party or a serious nation wide event if we want to put an end to projec 2025
Oh hell yeah! I totally support you guys trying that! I’m sure it’ll work out perfectly for us!
If the democratic machine would let him. He’d do a bang up job. But the DNC will mobilize all they have to stop him. Damn the cost. Just as they’ve done in the past.
Well, the Democrats won’t be the ones to do it.
“Meet me in the middle,” says the leopard.
The Geronocrats and MAGATs are the foolish clown that hops into the mouth of the beast.
This is how you continue to lose. The first bullet point is correct. The rest is fail.
The first dot point is incorrect. They should not embrace that right wing nonsense.
Correct. Patriotism should be the result, not the means.
Holy shit, that second bullet point. The hundreds of thousands of people donating small sums of money are somehow less representative of the electorate than the two hundred people donating over a million dollars each, because reasons (just not mathematically sound ones)
It’s the 4th bullet point that gets me. “We should spend more time going to right-wing-dominated spaces (and also restaurants)”. Because only right-wing communities are “real”. Anything lefties do is elitist.
The second bullet point is itself a paradox. By definition hundreds of small donations would represent the electorate better than individual large donors.
People really need to show up to the primaries from now on. Tired of this shit.
Do they still have super delegates?
Is this verified? If so, congratulations, Democratic party leadership. Once again, you’re planning on doing the exact opposite of what you should be doing. Their leftist voter turnout is going to plummet again while they try court Republicans—who often vote by party rather than policy.
The party should "embrace-patriotism, community, and traditional American imagery
Playing into nostalgia and nationalism. A strategy taken straight from the other party’s playbook.
Democrats should “ban far-left candidate questionnaires and refuse to participate in forums that create ideological purity tests” and “move away from the dominances small-dollars donors whose preferences may not align with the broader electorate”
Condemning progressiveness, leaving their policies either to do nothing or slide the country even more into conservatism.
Abandoning their actual “small-dollars” donors (constituents) whose preferences may not align with
the broader electoratethe corporate donors.They should “push back against far-left staffers and groups that exert a disproportionate influence on policy-and messaging”
Going to screw progressive politicians yet again, leaving only moderates and conservatives.
Candidates should “get out of elite circles and into real communities (e.g., tailgates, gun shows, local restaurants, churches)”
Actively and deliberately court voters from conservative hotspots.
The party needs to “own the failures of Democratic governance in large cities and commit to improving local government.”
Either this means the goal is deregulation, or that they don’t plan on addressing issues outside of rural areas. Maybe both.
That’s what the voters have been trying to tell the DNC since 2016.
But the DNC’s ears are plugged with corporate cash.
Ears? It’s more like every orifice being plugged with corporate cash.
Really? Then why aren’t there more progressives at every level of the Democrat party?
Maybe they should try telling Democrats at the voting booth.
Call me crazy, but I want an answer before 2028.
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Hey there, Betelgeuse (I’m assuming you’re that shoulder of Orion). I’d just like to point out that the democrats have deliberately and repeatedly tried a failing strategy of just phoning it in and trying to win on nothing more than “I’m not Donald Trump” and celebrity guest appearances. They knew they were fucking cooked, and I did too when they released that video of Obama lecturing down at black men for not supporting Kamala enough. If you have to lecture your base, they didn’t fuck up, you did.
Young Democrats…didn’t vote
In 4 of the 7 key states, Harris received more votes than Biden did in 2020. In the 3 where she received less, Trump still would have won based on how many more votes he got even if Harris’s vote count was unchanged compared to Biden in 2020.
This “Democrats lost because of Gaza” angle is convenient. Both sides like it use it. “Moderates” like to blame the “far left” for discouraging voters by calling out the inaction on the genocide. Leftists blame the moderates because they refused to actually denounce the genocide or commit to stopping it. Both side’s arguments are based in assumptions that do not bear out once you look at the actual votes.
I mean a whole lot of voters did put the biggest reason they sat out as Gaza. There was a poll on it by YouGov. Now let’s not get that wrong; Harris lost because her campaign was a shitshow, so blaming Gaza voters in particular is improductive, but even with a moderately good candidate it would’ve probably been close as they would’ve had to win without Michigan and Arizona.
You basically named the only politicians that publicly condemned Israel. I can’t say I’m surprised seeing one of the few zionists on lemmy disliking them.
And this is what, 5 times you copy and paste the same message, subtly implying the “genocide joe” people are the same as the “river to the sea” crowd.
There’s a difference between rightly calling out Biden for his support of genocide and calling for another separate genocide. We just want Israel to stop taking crowds of innocents and turning them into dust. It’s blatant what you are trying to imply, nobody here is chanting “from the river to the sea”.
The democrats lost because they gave their support to people like you, who want to hate and genocide an entire population, instead of the actual voters they are meant to represent.
I straight up want Israel gone and the land managed by the original inhabitants not some European colonists.
From the river to the sea is fine.
Which “original” inhabitants?
Oh fuck off with that nonsense, what’s next “can’t be racist cos we all came from Africa”?
Who is meant is very obvious in reference to the peoples existing there before Zioni invaded.
I’d settle for just not arming any side and giving refuge to anyone who wants out.
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No, fuck the party for not reading the room. Bernie and co. were trying to build an alternative, bringing the left where it should have been. The unwillingness to change brought defeat and they saw what the party couldn’t. Why can’t your see what? The dems would have lost with or without bernie’s support. You’re just butthurt their criticism was correct all along
YOUNG DEMOCRATS DIDNT VOTE AND NOW ITS ALL GONE
Young democrats don’t exist. Young independents didn’t vote for dems because the dems offer them nothing. When people said bernie was the compromise it was the truth. He’s not far enough left to make the left happy, but was far enough to get votes.
really, 6 karma dude, fascinating take
You can just admit you have nothing to counter with rather than trying to insinuate something about them.
Neoliberals will never admit that there’s any path for America but moving further and further right.
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At this point I’m convinced the only way to defeat Trump and his band of Nazis is to shoot them all in their fucking faces.
Literally the majority of the video is just random left-bashing lmao
And then proposing “super-capitalism” as a solution what an absolute clown
Did you watch a different video? He said that reality-challenged tankie spaces aren’t able to contribute to a leftist movement that is able to attract workers.
That sounds entirely accurate to me.
tankie spaces aren’t able to contribute to a leftist movement
Right, like I said, left-bashing.
Btw, is Hasan Piker a tankie? Because he bashed him too, and he’s by far the largest leftist politics streamer with an enormous influence and broad appeal. But I guess he’s not ideologically pure enough for Adam Something so therefore he’s a tankie and useless.
His whole way of thinking is entirely idealist, as if creating an ideologically pure movement (ironically, by ditching any semblance of socialism including even the word, in favor of “super capitalism”), the left will automatically win. Nowhere in the video does he discuss any positive vision or any actually strategy other than punching left. Obviously, he serves as nothing but an off-ramp to get people to abandon leftist ideas they might otherwise be inclined towards, the only question is whether he’s doing it intentionally or is just a useful idiot of the right.
are you against worker co-ops?
Did you reply to the wrong comment?
Are you?
Adam Something has repeatedly used “Super Capitalism” as a conservative-friendly way of saying worker co-ops. You’d know this if you paid attention to the video, or watched his other videos.
I did pay attention to the video. I understand what he’s aiming to do with rebranding leftist ideas as “super-capitalist” I just think it’s a completely braindead move. It doesn’t matter how much you try to avoid the label, if you ever pose any genuine threat to capital then you will be branded as a socialist whether you are or not, even if you do manage to trick a couple gullible rubes by lying to them (which would be unlikely to work in the first place).
I have no particular problem with worker co-ops, I do absolutely have a problem with this idiotic nonsense. If you allow the socialist label to be a boogeyman you are shooting yourself in the foot, it’s literally how we got here in the first place.
Do you genuinely take this clown seriously? Lmao.
ok lemmy.ml
You learn the left-bashing well lmao. Just default to it immediately whenever confronted with criticism you can’t answer.
Is this y’all’s version of theory, where you get this shit from? Good to finally know where the shitlibs on here come from, I kinda assumed it was some random YouTube personality.
