I’ve seen many threads suggesting products but they often don’t mention FOSS projects, which should always be preferred to corporate software. With FOSS you are already boycotting capitalism, on either side. Free and Open Source ignores borders and shouldn’t be categorized in nationalist terms, no matter where some of the maintainers happen to live.

  • Riley@lemmy.mlEnglish
    32·
    5 days ago

    I always like to say the fruits of FOSS labour are the common heritage of mankind. It belongs to all of us as a public good, created and maintained by selfless workers. (Nevermind the fact that most FOSS projects are based out of Europe anyways).

        • Hemingways_Shotgun@lemmy.caEnglish
          8·
          5 days ago

          I don’t know about that, to be honest.

          I don’t have any hard data to back me up, but anecdotally I find that most FOSS software I use is headquartered in Europe. Quite often Germany. There are many maintainers from all over the world, but I feel like (again…in my experience) Europe has always been bigger into starting such projects.

      • PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world
        3·
        5 days ago

        I mean, open source projects can be started or based in the US. But that doesn’t mean it’s an American project; it’s just that the people who started it happened to be American.

        I guess if we had to point to a specific American OSS, maybe Tor would qualify? It was initially developed by the CIA, so that may qualify it as US OSS. But it has since taken on a life of its own and the CIA doesn’t have any hand in active development anymore… So it’s still hard to say that even “being made by the literal US government” qualifies an OSS project as “American”.

        It’s sort of a Ship of Theseus situation. At what point in the development process do we consider it a non-American project?

  • kingthrillgore@lemmy.ml
    31·
    5 days ago

    I came into this thinking its more like “Oh no open sores is full of communists let me pay for worse software I never own” which is an argument that comes from the same camp as “this software I don’t like is woke”

  • m532@lemmygrad.ml
    1·
    3 days ago

    More like “buy white”

    The white supremacists think trump bailed on them so they are desperate to hold the remains of their fourth reich together

    And of course they hate FOSS, because they hate freedom

  • jrozycki@lemm.ee
    5·
    5 days ago

    I think there is a different problem. Many of the best FOSS products are unknown to the general public ;/

  • Blackbeard@feddit.it
    1·
    3 days ago

    Not sure why you say that, all projects I’m seeing they ALL include FOSS, sometimes they just specify if one is European and another one no. Also, and to be fair this is the main reason your post make no sense, there is not only software but mainly services and goods as core part of the projects.

  • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
    241·
    5 days ago

    Agree with the main point, though disagree that FOSS is “boycotting capitalism”, many for-profit companies contribute to FOSS and FOSS can be used by for-profit companies too, much of today’s capitalism runs on FOSS.

    The point of free software is that it does not have owners, so what exactly are you “boycotting”?

    • endofline@lemmy.caEnglish
      125·
      5 days ago

      Tell it to the Russian Linux devs that foss has no owners :-) Theory and practice are 2 different things

      • e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de
        134·
        5 days ago

        FOSS doesn’t mean that you are entitled to a place at the table or that your contributions have to be accepted. Nothing prevents these Russian devs from continuing to to work on the kernel.

        • anar@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          1·
          5 days ago

          Pretty sure American laws explicitly prevent them from working on the Kernel. It’s stupid but that’s what happened iirc

          • m532@lemmygrad.ml
            1·
            3 days ago

            And that’s the funny thing: linus is somewhere in europe, yet burgerlander laws apply because the politicians and media in all of europe are all puppets of usa

          • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
            2·
            4 days ago

            US laws prevented them from contributing while employed in a sanctioned company. Sucky situation for those individuals.

      • 0ops@lemm.ee
        62·
        5 days ago

        They can fork it, if nobody wants to work with them anymore that’s their problem

  • Petter1@lemm.ee
    102·
    5 days ago

    Lol, first time I hear that, as European😆 what a stupid movement…

  • Emma Liv@lemmy.caEnglish
    432·
    6 days ago

    Counterpoint: Fedora is a testing bed for Red Hat. One of Red Hat’s notable customers is the US military. I’d prefer to stay off that path if I can help it. It’s a matter of trust, and it’s a matter of indirectly contributing. I’ve seen people say the same things about Deepin and everyone nods in agreement, but why the hell should I trust a US project, for the same reasons?

    • RushLana@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      351·
      6 days ago

      Honestly this should be a wake call to the FOSS community that we are way too reliant on the US.

      Every default we have is US centric and if FOSS is really meant for everyone we should move away from that.

    • Shareni@programming.dev
      176·
      6 days ago

      why the hell should I trust a US project

      Bekuz Amerika fridom wurld polis, best kontri in da world!

      But on a more serious note, did you know Linus banned those Russian contributors like a month after redhat and DoD signed a new deal. Can you guess who owns RH stocks?

    • Engywuck@lemm.ee
      499·
      6 days ago

      I think OP means that one shouldn’t boycott FOSS projects just because they are from USA. That said, I don’t like to be told what I have to do and don’t agree to “FOSS projects, which should always be preferred to corporate software”. My pc, my LAN, my rules.

      • not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPEnglish
        71·
        5 days ago

        you seem to hold your individual freedoms high, there is a kind of software i think you’ll really like

        • Engywuck@lemm.ee
          113·
          5 days ago

          You seem to wanting to school me about what my preference should be. I’ll happily block you. Bye.

          • Yppm@lemy.lolEnglish
            7·
            4 days ago

            They were just pointing out that saying “my PC my rules” is pretty funny when you advocate for closed source software on it. Your PC their rules.

            Obviously it was tongue in cheek so chill.

            • Engywuck@lemm.ee
              13·
              4 days ago

              That was a shitty reply with paternalistic attitude. The kind of fundamentalist attitude which alienates people from some communities. I use Linux and FOSS exclusively since decades, but if I happily fire up a VM to use some CS software that is only available for Windows, if that allows me to do my job better or faster. I don’t need some stranger in the internet telling me that my workflow is broken because of “principles”. These people better stay in my block list.

      • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
        51·
        6 days ago

        I don’t like to be told what I have to do and don’t agree to “FOSS projects, which should always be preferred to corporate software”. My pc, my LAN, my rules.

        …he said, without a hint of irony.

        Meanwhile, “my PC, my LAN, my rules” is precisely the reason I do agree with always preferring FOSS to corporate software.