Shouldn’t be a issue since landlords never lie to keep deposits right?

  • Jimius@lemmy.ml
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    22 hours ago

    Why more? Why add an extra layers, more complexity? Why not just ban deposits? The rental contract already covers damages caused by tenants. And it’s not like you pay a €2000 deposit, cause €10.000 worth of damage and not have to pay the additional €8000.

    Maybe in the past, with cash payments and paper records. Deposits added a layer or security. But does that still hold true today? I’m sure landlords will disagree.

    If the landlord believes the tenant left the property in a damaged state, they can enforce the contract. Upside is that it’s not worth it to sue for trivial shit like nail holes or greasy stove vacuums. Now the tenants are always on the backfoot, spending money to get their own money back.

  • meliante@lemm.ee
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    23 hours ago

    They have a deposit protection scheme in the UK where neither the landlord nor the tenant have full control of the amount. It’s very useful. Much better than the landlord having the money in his possession.

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      12 hours ago

      This, the limit on how much it could be, and the ban on charging any additional fees, absolute game changers! The changing them not being able to tax deduct mortgage payments has also changed behaviour. I mean, landlords are still a huge drain on society and rents are mental but these steps help

    • ladydragonfruit@lemmy.ca
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      22 hours ago

      This was a big change when we moved to the UK. It makes sense to have a third party involve with photos of everything before you rent. Should be standard really.

  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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    21 hours ago

    It’s different in my region.

    Landlords have been challenged to show when and why they withold deposits. It’s not guaranteed but when brought to the board the tenant often wins unless the landlord can present a good case.

    Then again, we only rent from companies for a reason.

  • Grool The Demon@lemmy.world
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    23 hours ago

    Check unclaimed funds with states you’ve lived in. No shit. I did it last year and found like 1500 bucks just in deposits past landlords said I didn’t deserve. The landlords might be shady but their accountants aren’t.

    • Limonene@lemmy.world
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      23 hours ago

      I had to sue for my security deposit once. It’s very common in the US for landlords to fraudulently keep some or all of the security deposit.

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        7 hours ago

        How annoying was that? My last landlord claimed some pretty indefensible justifications for keeping our deposit (among other things, $300 to “sweep and vacuum the attic”) but I’m not convinced that I’ll actually wind up ahead if I’m missing work to go to court.

        • Limonene@lemmy.world
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          6 hours ago

          It was during the pandemic, so the courtroom was a teleconference. For $300, it’s not worth the stress (unless you can also claim statutory/punitive damages). But it is worth knowing you’ve deprived a leech of committing theft, if that appeals to you.

          Small claims court is not too hard and doesn’t require a lawyer, but do try to find some free legal advice before your court date. Housing issues usually have free legal advice in most jurisdictions.

  • cattywampas@lemm.ee
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    23 hours ago

    Check your local laws and ordinances, your landlords may be required to provide itemized expenses to you within a certain time frame. Where I am, it’s within 30 days.

  • KestrelAlex@lemmy.world
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    In Canada your landlord is required to pay back your deposit with interest, so if you gave them a $1000 deposit and stayed for 10 years and interest is at 5% they would be giving you back about $1600.

    Very few actually do this and most of the time interest is so low nobody bothers to fight for it.

  • BJ_and_the_bear@lemm.ee
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    23 hours ago

    You can demand itemized receipts for everything they want to take from the deposit, at least I’m California

    • gonzo-rand19@moist.catsweat.com
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      23 hours ago

      Security deposits are a type of refundable fee where a tenant pays a specific amount (often many hundreds of dollars) to a landlord to “ensure” that they don’t damage a residence while living there. If the residence is damaged, the landlord keeps the deposit. The term is derived from contract law where “security” just means a way to make sure that a party to a contract meets their contractual obligations.

      There are many instances where a landlord illegally keeps the deposit over damage that was either already existing or minimal (also referred to as “wear and tear” damage, which is expected when you live somewhere long-term), so OP is calling for the courts to determine the extent of damage to prevent landlords from taking advantage of tenants.

      In some jurisdictions (like the one I live in), security deposits and most other related deposits such as key deposits (i.e., a refundable fee paid to obtain a key to the residence) are completely illegal in order to eliminate the possibility entirely.

    • Trent Hellacious@lemm.ee
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      23 hours ago

      Sorry, still new migrant. Just wanted to say I have never seen the descriptions of the emojis before! I was getting some of them SO wrong! 😱

  • Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world
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    In Norway your deposit is payed into a special account in your name and both parties have to agree to it’s release or settle in court. If the landlord takes some for repairs to abnormal damage (can’t charge for “normal wear and tear”) they have to provide proof that they used it for that (receipts etc).

  • The_Caretaker@lemm.ee
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    8 hours ago

    Better yet, don’t allow corporations to own residential properties at all. Only allow individuals to own two residential properties. Make renting residential property a crime like human trafficking, because that’s what it is. Let hedge funds speculate on commercial and industrial real estate. #RentIsTheft

  • absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz
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    19 hours ago

    In NZ if the bond is not lodged with the tenancy tribunal within a couple of weeks, the LL is in serious trouble.

    • meteorswarm@beehaw.org
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      6 hours ago

      Meanwhile in America, my old ll tried to tell me I couldn’t have my deposit back because “it’s summer and the bank is on vacation”

  • dracs@programming.dev
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    13 hours ago

    It’s a requirement in Australia for it to be paid to the government bond agency. Typical method of paying it is a cheque payable only to the bond authority. Once you hand back the keys at the end of the lease you can apply directly to the bond agency for it to be refunded to you and the landlord needs to formally object to claim any of the bond.

    • BilboTBaggin@lemmy.world
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      9 hours ago

      That sounds like a way more reasonable system! As far as I’m aware it’s not super common here (Netherlands) for landlords to not pay back the deposit but it is entirely in their hands :(

      • dracs@programming.dev
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        8 hours ago

        Well, still plenty of dogdy landlords who take advantage of people who don’t know about that requirement and either take it for themselves or push renters towards “resolving disputes between themselves” and not involving the bond authority at end of lease time.