• Lord Wiggle@lemmy.world
    16·
    2 days ago

    Hitler did nothing wrong, he was just misunderstood! I was just following orders! I had no choice! I didn’t know! I’m the victim here, not those millions killed! I had the best intensions! I am just a small gear in a very large system! Yeah, but they did stuff too!

    Aaaand scene

    • Nangijala@feddit.dk
      2·
      2 days ago

      I have always thought you could make that point with something like a knife. It is a tool made to assist in chores. You can use the knife to feed your family or kill your family. The knife is just a knife.

      But a gun is specifically designed to kill. There is literally no other purpose for the gun. You can’t use it in a kitchen. You can’t use it to carve tools. Its only use it to take life.

      That’s why the guns don’t kill people mantra rings endlessly hollow to me.

      • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
        1·
        2 days ago

        That is a valid argument. However, conservatives refuse to make any connection between the tool, the wielder, and the fact that the tool is designed to make the job easier. Whether it be hammering a nail or killing people as quickly as possible. Usually followed by taking the absurd and hyperbolic argument that baseball bats or cars kill people too while ignoring that cars are specifically designed to avoid causing death and baseball bats are for sport with no intent to maximize harm like bullets or blades.

        • Nangijala@feddit.dk
          1·
          2 days ago

          Ah the whataboutism. I have run into that one too when I argue against recreational drugs. Pro drug users always always always bring up alcohol and everytime I’m like "yes, alcohol sucks too and I would ideally see it phased out of society instead of adding weed and cocaine etc to the legality club. And then they start their blabbering about how restrictions just makes the black market boom and yadda yadda and you shouldn’t have any restrictions because criminals will win, then. But I’m still like: yeah, but making accessibility easier will also not benefit society.

          It’s the same discussion as it is with guns. They never want to actually talk about the issues, but would rather deflect and focus the discussion in on topics that has less and less and less to do with the original point. Ignore all your arguments and declare themselves the winner of the discussion because they feel they successfully won against their own strawman argument instead of actually trying to engage in the conversation.

    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      2·
      2 days ago

      Isn’t it kind of the opposite though? As in the gun would be analogous to the worker carrying out the order, and the shooter would be Hitler.

      Not that they’d ever give a shit about consistency or hypocrisy.

      • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
        1·
        18 hours ago

        I get what you’re saying and you’re correct, but my comment was an attempt to point out that republicans use bullshit logical arguments to divorce cause and effect, the tool and the user. Yes, people kill people, but the gun is the tool specifically used to make it easier and faster. No, Mao didn’t personally kill millions, but he used the tool of ignorance and populism to accomplish it. It’s like if Mao said “I didn’t starve people, they starved themselves.”

  • BigTurkeyLove@lemmy.world
    10·
    3 days ago

    MAGA come get yo boy, he’s d̶r̶u̶n̶k̶ in a K hole and still out there doing Nazi shit and defending Hitler…

  • RandomStickman@fedia.io
    5·
    3 days ago

    So the 4D chess move is to fire all the public sector workers so there’s no one to do his nazi deeds. Gotcha.

  • 🎨 Elaine Cortez 🇨🇦 @lemm.eeEnglish
    51·
    3 days ago

    This adds to an ever-growing list of things.

    • He created a safe space for Nazis on his platform

    • He amplified pro-Nazi content on his platform

    • He offered support for Germany’s far-right AfD party, which uses Nazi symbolism in its posters.

    • He did not one, but two Nazi salutes during Trump’s inauguration.

    • He’s endorsed established antisemetic conspiracy theories such as the “great replacement” conspiracy theory.

    • After receiving backlash for the two Nazi salutes that he did at Trump’s inauguration, instead of apologizing, he posted Nazi puns.

    All the gaslighting from his supporters with “you can’t read his mind” “he’s autistic” and “it was a Roman salute/my heart goes out to you” is quite frankly an insult to people’s intelligence.

    • loomi@lemmy.world
      5·
      2 days ago

      Three salutes. Two to the podium, he then turned and did 1 more to the people behind and above him.

      Most video only showed the first 2

      • mmddmm@lemm.ee
        4·
        2 days ago

        And the public (selected as partisan people) immediately cheered, without any confusion or protest.

        People don’t show that enough. The public reaction is more important than the original gesture.

  • MuskyMelon@lemmy.world
    8·
    3 days ago

    Agreed. I blame those who voted them into power and I blame those who haven’t taken out the garbage, by any means necessary.

  • TimeNaan@lemmy.world
    801·
    3 days ago

    Why the fuck is this fascist posting under the black flag? Does he consider himself an anarchist?

  • TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world
    6·
    3 days ago

    I suppose the military and police are public sector workers, but doesn’t that imply that he should be focusing on dismantling the defense department and like FBI, DHS, etc?

  • Wispy2891@lemmy.world
    10·
    1 day ago

    But what does he mean? That the public sector workers should rebel and guillotine the president and kraznov?