This doesn’t sound “user friendly” at all to me
Whats the draw of discord? I don’t get why people go on there. It’s boring af and you gotta talk with people while you play video games. I’ll go on if I absolutely have to for a group, but I avoid if I can.
Being able to enter and sit inside a call where your friends can see that a call is active and who is in call is a really nice feature. It completely negates having to ping a whole group that may or may not be available like with Skype.
Whats the draw of discord?
Chat plus streaming as a freemium service that has its hooks in with the networking effect.
Probably the biggest draw of Discord is how many people use Discord. But past that, it fills a bunch of real time social media roles well.
As a case in point, I’m in a game of Pathfinder Kingmaker with friends, and Discord does a good job of letting players join virtually, sharing screens, rolling dice, keeping a log of the different chats, pinning the links to the Kingdom management files, and providing a search function to find historical info.
Its greentext. Its not real/true.
Fake and gay as they say
Can’t say if this anon specifically had this happen, but there’s plenty of proof of it happening.
So basically if you hate a community, you just gotta go there and post some no-no pics, and everything gets nuked? Great, I’m sure nobody will abuse this.
I watch enough No Text To Speech to belive this is true. I even think he had a video about this
Anon can at least hope to appeal the suspension as its not a complete ban but support might take a while
This is why people should be worried of using these massive services, luckily it was ‘only’ Discord (if this was your primary way to interact with friends, this can be a huge deal).
But imagine if it was your email account!
Getting a reputable provider, self hosting or using a decentralized option is paramount for your own sanity.
Currently having problems with GMail I lost my old phone (2fA) and no device was logged in so i could not access steam and like everything that requires that old mail
And my phone provider or postal service is stupid because i could not get a replacement sim after multiple tries which normally works
Googles account recovery policy is basically:
- 2fA
- recovery email
- create a new account x.x
I think the recovery mail option only gets unlocked after 6? months inactivity because ~3 months ago i did not have the option
Now after requesting a recovery i still have to wait a full month before they maybe send me a password reset to my moms mail
But steam support was nice. Managed to get the account by providing a product key i used a few months ago and was lucky enough not to have thrown the physical card away
Currently having problems with GMail I lost my old phone (2fA)
Yea this is exactly why I don’t use 2FA
If the password is like 64 characters randomly generated by Keepass, the 2FA doesn’t matter.
This is what I do as well. A few services force 2fa though and also have 0 good options (let me use my flipper as a u2f through not chrome, ungoogled-chromium works, but damn), and for those I’m forced to use text.
While I’m here, anyone have a good chrome based browser that is private and can use serial ports for flashing meshtastic devices and u2f? Need android mainly because I have ungoogled-chromium on linux, but will take recs for linux too if there’s a better one.
You can still accidentally leak your password via phishing or malware. 2FA is fine if you don’t tie it to a phone number, simplest way: install any authenticator app for TOTP tokens. Scan the QR code on multiple devices like phone + tablet, or old phone, for redundancy. Or save the secret key.
Google and most critical services also give you a list of 10 single use emergency codes that you should print or save in Keepass - lost the phone? Nbd just use one of the codes and reset 2FA.
I also never thought my non shared password would be public but one day I suddenly got prompted on the authenticator if I wanted to login; still no idea how or why but at least no one could get in and immediately rotated out the password.
Nah, password authentication or anything that transmits the full secret is beyond primitive. Passkeys, client certificates, OTP never transmit the secret key. With passkeys & client certificates, the server never has the secret key, so it can’t expose it.
Problems due to phone loss indicate bad practices. Any decent password manager or vault service can manage cryptographic credentials of any kind.
There was that man who was all in on Google.
He had a telemedicine appointment for his son who had a problem with his penis. Dr asked him to send a close-up photo so he could diagnose the skin condition
So the guy takes the photo with his pixel phone and sends it
The phone automatically backs up the photo
Google’s AI says it’s child porn, his account is deleted and police are contacted
Police look into it and say “not porn, totally fine” but have to go to his house to tell him the was no problem because his phone was Google, his internet was Google fibre, his email was Gmail and his photo album was on Google and all that was irrevocably deleted
That’s insane
Yep. Guy had his life pretty much ruined. Don’t tether your life to a company — they don’t care about you, they have no duty toward you
This made me thinking about Valve potentially banning my 19-years-old Steam account due to some error or a mistake 💀 I heard bad things about their customer support.
Anon’s big mistake was not being the President of the Gulf of America.
I have no qualms about your getting banned for this.
You are who you associate with. For example: trump associates with Epstein. Should he not be banned from discord?
You are who you associate with.
Must be why in most democratic nations you have no freedom of association.
So, if anyone in this thread ever posts CP elsewhere on lemmy, or even here in this thread now that you’re already here, you think your acct should be wholly banned from lemmy because you are who you associate with?
In your analogy this Lemmy thread and a discord group are the same. I disagree with this and would say the discord group would be more akin to joining a subreddit known for sharing that type of content.
I am of course not giving anon the benefit of the doubt because of who they are.
When you go into a public space and see a guy you’ve never seen or heard of before in your life and then later get arrested for associating with a sexual predator because you looked at that guy even though nothing about him even hinted at anything to do with crime of any sort.
Once again not remotely similar to freely associating in a discord group with known predators.
Damn you really be lacking reading comprehension skills dont you
No, he didn’t say “I joined a CP discord group,” he said it was a discord group. To use your subreddit analogy, if you join a subreddit called like r/gaming or some shit where they post about games, and someone posts CP anytime after the date you joined, you should be banned even if you didn’t open the app that day.
I’m not giving you the benefit of the doubt either, for all I know you’re on c/CP which I didn’t know existed, and I could be banned for arguing you here. Maybe I should block/report you just to be safe, hmm? Idfk what comms exist on Lenis . org or whatever your server is, sounds sketch tbh…
You’re funny
Believe it or not, most pedos aren’t super open about it.
gosh, that makes me feel really nervous
Same! Perhaps I should prune my Discord servers
Same happened to me but with animal cruelty content or something. I tried to get the account back but turns out it was a “ban wave” so a lot of other people who got banned but were innocent were doing the same so discords services got overwhelmed by the appeals. Maybe they should have realized after that that this kinda banning is a horrible approach.
i hate discord so much my first discord account got permabanned because the owner of a server i was in went nuts and doxxed 8 year olds and my second account i got locked out for a year because they thought i was a bot and i couldnt use my phone number to verify because it was already in use on my first account then when i finally got in it had a 6 month ban because a server i was in got raided by racists that said slurs
Never understood why anyone would want to pay 100$ a year for discord, the paid version doesnt give you that much imo
personally the $3 a month nitro is worth it for me, considering how much I use it. I know Lemmy hates anything capitalist but a coffee a month isnt that much
Which is a good monetation system. Premium users barely get anything but still enough to pay, while free users can do pretty much everything too.
Personally, Discord has facilitated a long distance relationship with my now wife, and nearly ten years of weekly TTRPG games. I don’t mind the cost because they cannot provide that service for free forever, and I think it’s worth it for what I get out of it. The other benefits they add for paying are almost just bonuses to me after that.
you could also pay to host some shit like mumble.
Mumble does not look like a replacement for all the things I use Discord for.
It cannot be overstated how much of a boon Discord’s lack of friction is for connecting with people and forming communities. It is mind-flatteningly easy to get onto Discord and into a community, and while the content of those communities is woefully unindexed deep web, forever sequestered, the external discoverability of the communities themselves is exceptional.
You will not ever reach the same people with the same ease of use as Discord if you use a hosted alternative.
I spam 500mb uploads… it kinda makes sense to me
To support the developers and pay for a product you use all the time? Same reason you pay for any software/game.
I agree with you in principle for supporting developers directly through something like OpenCollective…
… but ask Mozilla how much their Firefox devs get for each financial donation.
The company is the heart of the software and it would not exist without the company most likely. True the execs get probably a larger share of any payments but it’s just the way the world works. It’s a piece of software produced by the company, not the developers.
Yes that is the sad reality of it, but I don’t think it justifies sending money to the company in the first place. They’re backed by VC and are already predisposed to screw you financially in the longrun. Why accelerate this with donations
I pay $30 a year for Nitro Basic. It’s only $2.50 a month and worth it to me with how much I use it.
Same, I call it my “shitposting tax”
You don’t wanna pay $100 for a bunch of useless stickers and random features that don’t need to be in a chat program? Whaaaaaat? That’s weird. /s
This is one of the bigger reasons I don’t want to use social media controlled by a corporation, it means they can choose to cut me off from people at their discretion, which will probably be based on what is convenient and easy for them.
This, the second you aren’t profitable, they put you in the modern day version of solitary confinement.
And as Reddit has shown they will shut you down for expressing any political opinion they don’t like.
They’re banning people for upvoting now lol
Comprehended, yes this is reality you speak of.
Luigi is an American hero. Whether he did it or not is irrelevant. It’s what he stands for.
Removed by mod
Which six companies? Let’s assume we count “social media” as “media”.
Meta, Musk Rat & Co, Google, what else?
That is kinda bullshit if they didn’t even see the content.
Just because they didn’t participate doesn’t mean they didn’t know it was there.
It doesn’t prove that they knew either. We have this thing called presumption of innocence.
Just because they’re part of the server doesn’t mean they knew it was there.
You know that some servers can have tens of thousands of people right?
What’s your point? That personal responsibly stops existing in a large group of people?
I mean, Lemmy used to have a big issue with CSAM being spammed by malicious users. Many people believed that it was pro-Reddit trolls, because it started happening right around the same time as the giant API debacle. It was a huge liability for the instance owners, because their server would automatically cache the content and they could be held liable for the CSAM being present on their server. It took a few months of dev time to add moderation tools, blacklisting, setting up automods, etc before it finally calmed down to the point that instance owners felt comfortable again.
By your logic, every single user in instances that got spammed should be banned. Because even if they didn’t see it, or interact with it in any way, they’re still personally responsible for it. After all, personal responsibility doesn’t stop existing in a large group of people.
Lemmy is celebrating cracking 50,000 users. Discord has 200 million MAU. They take a broader approach to punishment because it’s the only feasible way to avoid legal problems.
IIRC some Lemmy instances were defederated at that time for poor moderation and nobody complained. Its a reasonable approach to avoid liability.
So, what you’re saying is, if someone on your Lemmy instance breaks the rules of another instance, your entire instance should be defederated, right?
My point is that it’s very naïve to assume that everyone in a given server knows what one person potentially posted once, especially the large servers.
Of course it’s possible they knew, but assuming by default that they had to have known is stupid.
When are you turning yourself in for associating with that one pedophile by existing in the same country?
Discord specifically has a skip to most recent post button, that i use frequently on the busier ones, because I’m not scrolling through two miles of unrelated nonsense and sub-convos to get to what’s currently relevant.
Am I guilty of thoughtcrime?
I mean if they have channels called like “CP Central” and the users all talk about how great the CP is on CP Central all the time then it really doesn’t matter how many messages you skip.
Also
I’m not scrolling through two miles of unrelated nonsense and sub-convos to get to what’s currently relevant.
This bullshit is exactly why I don’t use discord.
My question is why do people feel the need to be in 40 servers? I couldn’t name 10 I give a shit about.
As a user you’re voluntarily joining a server, you should know what the content is and how well it’s moderated. Ignorance isn’t a defense here; a server doesn’t get nuked for one bad actor posting illegal content once or twice.
Nine times out of ten these stories are from a user that joins servers made for NSFW content (usually for something like OF leaks). There’s no content verification and lots of active channels.
You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to realize that combo almost always ends poorly (see: reddit jailbait or old pornhub). If it feels risky just leave, there’s no lack of places to find porn on the internet.
Edit: The downvotes and replies are hilarious. Have any of you actually been banned? Do you know anyone that has been banned? If these small servers for games or 10k member general servers were the issue, you’d hear about this way more.
Discord doesn’t want to ban users, it’s bad for business. They know what servers you’re in and how you access them. If they think banning someone is worth it its to cover their ass on ACTUAL crime; nothing about this is thought crime.
Again, give me any counter example of masses of users being unjustly banned. You’re tilting at windmills people…
I’m in 23 different discord servers. Tech, hacking, DIY, cars, music, etc.
1-3 for friend groups, 3-20 for various games because devs decided to stop using traditional forums so if you want to talk shit to a game devs face regarding changes that fix the exploit you’ve been using to have fun you have to pretend to be a discord kitten for months and gain their confidence so you can appropriately deal enough psychic damage to repay what they took from you, 5-10 for foss software collaboration, 5-10 for obscure porn game contribution so it stops taking ten fucking months between updates.
And I think I’m pretty asocial. Normies must have thousands of servers joined.
I’m in exactly 1 server, that my friend uses to organize game night at his place with many other people. If I could get him to switch platforms I would delete my account.
Limit is 200 with nitro but there is a reason why unofficial clients have workarounds for the limit
Bro got down voted for telling the unwashed masses to practice some vigilance and personal responsibility. Fuck…
how is it my problem if an emote server i joined years ago and never even opened since turns bad?
how is it my problem that a hidden channel i never saw broke TOS?
people get banned for both
get off people’s asses for not being discord batmans hunting down TOS violations across every channel, every day in every server they join. we’re not paid discord admins and we’re not doing their goddamn work for them, besides even those reporting can get banned.
content like this should be removed yes but proximity to it shouldn’t get you banned. Do you think it would be a good idea to arrest an entire block of flats because one resident turned out to be a criminal? Do you think it would be bright to expect every single resident to have figured out a crime was about to happen and leave for the duration of it?
*for telling people they are responsible for what others do in a chatroom they may look at once and then ignore.
I am in discords I never engage with, but literally only have as a place I can search for answers, like a niche alternative to stack overflow. It is absurd for me to be held to the standard of policing everything that happens on those servers just in case some of it might be bad. Discords can also have permissions limited viewing. Are we supposed to know what happens in the channels we can’t see?
More importantly, despite how much work it is to do so, punishments have to be applied on an individual level. Punishing people who are in a class is too vague.
I’m in 60+ servers, but actively follow maybe 4-5. Others are for different games, twitch communities, lots of subreddit discords since I haven’t used Reddit since the API bullshit… I should trim down the list but I like popping in to them occasionally, don’t feel like I should get banned due to activity in a server I rarely check
Presumption of innocence is a thing, you know?
In 2020 some small servers (50-200 people per server) got cover banned with all their users, mostly for political talk, as far as I’m aware.
I, personally, usually join such small servers while looking for lobby members in older games, I have a couple of them muted except for channels dedicated specifically to game lobbies. If someone starts an “illegal” talk in any other channel on one of these, why should I be held liable? Or am I suddenly obligated to hunt for pipe bomb recipes in any server I join?
I don’t really know how to use Discord except by muting servers immediately after joining and probably never looking at them again
I mean, seeing as it’s a 4chan greentext there’s probably some very important information being left out.
Entirely possible.
And I’m not looking forwards to the effort it is going to take to get my friends to migrate away from discord. It was hard enough to get them on discord in the first place.
Anon forgot to put their interpersonal relationships in a RAID array
- Three-year-old* account with no violations
- 5-year-old* alt account
