First things first, I’ve updated my LI account with a new e-mail and 2FA and now my account is “Temporarily restricted”. LinkedIn require me to send them either my ID card (no way) or my legal information certified by a lawyer in my country (no way). The ID seems to be “verified” (they are nothing to compare against) by Persona, a third-party that is located in US.

I kindly asked by mail to delete my account (as outlined in Article 17 of the GDPR) using a webcall or a short video with me talkie-talking about how I would like to recover my account. “Kindly asked” whether they prefer me to bring the matter to the court (Article 77 of the GDPR). Gonna see what they reply.

Anybody who went through this? Any success? Any arguments that seemed to work on the support?

  • ka1ikasan@lemmy.zipOP
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    15 hours ago

    Thanks for your reply, there are many ideas that help me to think it through!

    First of all: no, I agree that non-verified person should not be able to request an account deletion. However, I am in full possession of my id, password, 2FA, full access to both old and new e-mail boxes as well as to all devices that have ever been used to log into this account. I believe that this is enough to prove that I am the one holding the account.

    I believe that I never used LI from any new VPN (I use either professional VPN or no VPN).

    As per your last paragraph, I totally agree that it might “reveal” my sensitive data. My idea was the following: if I show myself ready enough and kinda literate about privacy (nothing fancy, just some well-known rights and regulations) I might get them to accept a video call or something similar to confirm my identity. If this case were to be brought to court after all, I believe that my ID data might remain within the jurisdiction of my country instead of be sent to a third party (Persona).

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      9 hours ago

      Yeah I totally agree that the whole ordeal is unnecessarily complex and confusing. The number of websites that have started mandating 2FA despite having complex, unique passwords that have never been shared annoys me regularly. It’s frustrating that because other people can’t figure out how to use a password manager, we can’t have nice things.

      My guess is that there is a certain number of account actions you’re allowed to take (changing password, email, etc) before they force you into a cool down period where you can’t delete your account for like a week. Maybe not, but this is one approach I’ve seen before.

      As for the video call, I totally see your train of thought. This is gonna sound dumb, but consider that nobody at LI knows you, so a video call is of limited value, especially in this world of ai models that can apply filters to video in real time. I’m not saying this is their rationale, but it could be part of it.

      I’m gonna nerd out here for a second but hopefully you’ll humor me. Authentication is tricky, especially if you want more than one factor for 2FA/MFA. The factors are often explained as something you know (password), something you have (perhaps a yubikey, in this case a state issued ID), or something you are (biometrics). The biggest issue as I understand it is that people reuse the same password over and over, so if your LI password were compromised then it isn’t too big of a leap to assume that your email was also compromised, meaning that any form of authentication relying on email cannot be trusted.

      If LI has a policy that any account deletion actions attempted within a month of changing the primary email require the account to have at least 2 factors, that would trigger the request for your ID, because they’re assuming that a threat actor is controlling all of the relevant accounts and they are no longer useful for authentication. State issued ID is one of the best ways to authenticate because when your state provides the ID, they are providing a level of guarantee that the information is both true and being provided without modifications (authentic).

      Having said all of that, could you not photoshop a state ID and provide that? Some in the comments have suggested that as an option. If I were designing the program then this third party, Persona, would have relationships with issuers of state ids and could do some level of validation that the ID being uploaded is authentic.

      I realize none of this solves your problem, but sometimes I feel better about “stupid” policies if I can work backwards and understand how they came to be in the first place and what they’re meant to accomplish. My advice is to wait a week or 3 and try to delete again, but obviously that is still no guarantee. Good luck!