Yes please, I will vote to support this.
Don’t all member states have to vote us in? Can’t see that happening.
Especially with Hungary’s russian asset in command (yeah, we also have a Trump in Europe…)
Orban has to vote for Canada. Why? His regime will be over in 14 days if he does not get the EU money. Orban’s biggest rival is in first place according to the latest polls. If he wants to be re-elected, he cannot sabotage EU policy.
Another rich country paying membership fees. Why not? (Ignoring general bureaucratic problems)
As a Canadian, we promise to bring cake (and a shitload of natural resources) to the next meeting.
Fuck your cake. Fuck your natural resources. Fuck your bilungualism, affable manner, vast wildernesses and extensive waters. Keep them. We don’t want them.
WE JUST WANT THE POUTINE.
K.
Would you like extra gravy with that?
Yes please. And cheese. And chips.
Sure, most will view it like that. But Hungary won’t. Poland might not.
Can we Philadelphians join?
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No, you guys know what you’ve done
Any reasons why these two neighborhoods go against the grain? Are they the posh suburbs?
As someone from a South Jersey suburb of Philly: take me with you!
I (from yrp) would absolutely love this <3
I’m not sure why I keep seeing this posted, like it’s some sort of gotcha. It doesn’t mean our other elections would have to change, just the brand new representatives to the EU.
The vote for liberal leadership used Preferential Voting where you could indicate more than one preference.
There would be voting changes , I believe, something about EU membership requiring a certain type of voting system. Eg. Not FPP
Hungary’s system is half proportional, half FPP on steroids, but it’s just as bad as FPP since our FPP lets the winner not just take the seat, but also extra votes into the proportional part of the race.
So, no, the EU is fine with everything, the only thing is that EU citizens have to be able to vote in local elections wherever we live, regardless of citizenship. That means if you join, and I rent a place in Toronto and move in, I get a vote for the Toronto mayor on day one.
It’s not about being a “gotcha” - it’s about demonstrating a pathway to better democratic representation.
You’re right that EU membership would only require PR for European Parliament representatives initially. However, this would create several significant opportunities:
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Practical demonstration: Canadians would experience firsthand how an electoral system that ensures every vote counts actually works, rather than just hearing theoretical arguments.
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Institutional precedent: Once PR is successfully implemented for one electoral body, the argument that it’s “too complex” or “un-Canadian” becomes much harder to maintain.
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Democratic legitimacy gap: Having representatives to the EU Parliament elected through PR while our own MPs are chosen through FPTP would create an obvious legitimacy contrast that would be difficult to justify.
The Liberal leadership vote using preferential voting actually supports this point. Internal party processes already recognize the limitations of FPTP - they just don’t extend those same democratic principles to the general electorate. In fact, all parties, even the Conservatives, use superior electoral systems to FPTP.
The reality is that 76% of Canadians support electoral reform according to recent polling, but our major parties benefit from maintaining a system that systematically discards votes. Exposure to functioning PR would make the democratic deficit in our current system increasingly apparent.
I get what you are saying, but the UK joined the EU with FPTP voting and left the EU because of FPTP. So while I agree that exposure might change things I do doubt it.
From all I’ve having lived in a couple of countries in the EU (including the UK), exposure to Proportional Vote in the EU Parliament Election seems to have zero impact on people wanting it for other election, maybe because EU MPs are too far away from most people and don’t really get all that much news coverage, unlike the national politics of a country.
Mind you, personally exposure to Proportional Vote when I was living in The Netherlands has definitely made my mind in favour of it, especially after I moved to Britain and was exposed to their shit-show FPTP voting system (worse than my own country of Portugal which as multi-representant electoral circles, so way less Democratic than PR but nowhere as bad as FPTP).
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Because it’s a step towards proportional representation. It would expose much more of the populace to how it’s done. Hopefully getting more people used to the idea of it.
England, Wales and Scotland had EU PR elections for 15 years, but England still rejected PR at referendum.
A lot of people don’t get it until they see it in action.
My union recently had a vote about increasing health benefits. “No” won in one of the categories because there were 3 options for how much to increase it by. (Yes won by 76% while the no beat the top yes 24% to 23%)
I pointed this out at the next meeting and we had a vote and struck the no vote. Later a bunch of people said thanks for pointing that out, and my reply was “no sweat, we have the same problem with our elections.”
Then everyone applauded and Einstein gave me a piece of π. Just kidding, it was more like weird looks and a couple agreements, but I like to think I brought the issue to a few people’s attention.
Make Commonwealth Imperial Again!
Guys guys guys, let’s be good friends with the EU, let’s even adopt some of their best policies, but honestly, they also have some baggage we don’t need.
Ya both those prospects seem “Colonial”
Worth it.
Believe me, we don’t want Orban either…
I just want to be sovereign. How is that so hard for people to understand?
EU members are all sovereign, brexiter.
I’m Canadian.
No, I understand that. I was making a rhetorical point. You’re making the same uninformed argument that was behind brexit.
I’m super jealous because I’ve wanted to have Canadian citizenship since back in my late teens / early adulthood when I realized that there was already a version of America that actually lived up to American ideals and which offered same-sex marriage as well as universal healthcare. That weed and apparently codeine are legal there make it so much more bittersweet.
The only people I’ve known personally to get citizenship are those who married a Canadian citizen. Which sucks for me because I’m already happily partnered and there’s no way I’d give that up for anything, not even Canadian citizenship, awesome and appealing as it is.
Legal marriage and having a life partner are not the same thing. I’ll marry you and my partner will marry your partner, no big deal.
Unfortunately, Canada has MAID, and also likes to deny healthcare to natives in the hopes that they will just die.
Fortunately, Canada has MAID. Unfortunately, Canada has MAID in place of meaningful care.
Shocking. Do you have a source for that?
Thank you so much for linking that! I really appreciate it. Usually a lot of people get mad when I ask for a source. I just wanna learn!
Maybe if/when the US invades, if we fight for Canada they’ll give us citizenship.
FWIW I obviously don’t have the power to approve that but I would certainly vote to make that a thing!
I had an American friend who married a Canadian. It took SO much work to get her permanent resident card, like a lawyer and everything.
The EU 🇪🇺 is more than welcome to include Canada 🇨🇦 as the 28th member state 🤝
I mean we did kinda get our asses kicked in 1812 after we started a war the president would later say we were unprepared for.
Honestly do people think this we’ll happen cause Brussels has already said no.
Brussels can suck my balls we’ll wait 6 months and Strasbourg is in power ez bro
Back to supporting CANZUK then
#canadentry
As a European, I think it would be pretty funny if, after Brexit, the other parts of the former Empire joined the EU.
But at least right now, membership is probably more of a meme - some solid cooperation and shared institutions would be amazing, though.
EU already said this can’t work. It said in the rules only European countries can join the EU. But something can be worked out, no doubt.
Membership of the European Economic Area - same as Norway - for example.
Comes with being part of the EU Internal Market, Freedom Of Movement (both ways, of course) and exceptions in a couple of areas (such as fishing rights not being decided by the EU, which I suspect is something that Canada would rather have) but without voting power within the EU.
Canada becomes a France province, easy.
Or France becomes a Canadian one and switch to English as the primary official language. It would solve a ton of issues and I’m sure the French would be okay with it.
It’s been ok so far in Canada.
Wait…
Where did they get all those torches and pitchforks so fast?
EuropeanWorldwide UnionGlobalists but for real this time.
You have to be “substantially European”, which includes Cyprus, which is fully in Asia and half Turkish. Also, Greenland and to a degree Iceland aren’t geographically European.
Neither Greenland nor Iceland are in the EU.
No, but French Guiana is, and it’s in South America.
kind of
Ah shit, you’re right about Iceland. I thought it was for some reason.
Greenland like usual has no data (because WTF is it really? Independent? A territory?). Denmark definitely is, though, and Greenlanders presently get the full benefits of that.
New update just dropped
I don’t see Erdogan being very happy about this map tho
Erdogan doesn’t care about Turkish EU membership.
That doesn’t look as absurd as it might seem at first!
especially once the north pole melts
One hell of a trading block and the EU GDP would leave the MAGA fucks in their dust trail.
Ya know, when you put it that way
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Pun intended. Get rocked.
Pretty please yes! I would love to leave to US for the EU. But that hop across the water is very difficult for me to afford.
