• PugJesus@lemmy.worldMEnglish
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        4 days ago

        Oh so you recognize they actually know what they’re talking about.

        That’s a pretty bizarre extrapolation from me recognizing that they’re campist cretins.

        What camp are they “campist cretins” to then?

        Second-campist. Do you not know what ‘campist’ means?

        It’s laughable you think tweets are evidence

        Yes. How hilarious it is that I think their own words are evidence of their positions. Ha ha.

        and not like, their articles since they are both critically acclaimed journalists.

        So is Glenn fucking Greenwald, that doesn’t make him not a cretin.

        The tweets don’t back up your claim either.

        Oh, right, apologism for atrocities is only bad when it’s US atrocities.

        We’re in a thread about the casualties of the Iraq War and you’re trying to discredit the two journalists that have created the most accurate and complete telling about the Iraq War that actually recognizes the humanity of the Iraqi civilians bombed, tortured, and starved to death in some of the most inhumane ways imaginable by the US. Like, wtf.

        Have they considered not discrediting themselves by being genocide apologists for non-US atrocities, or is that too much ask?

        I apologize, in the future, I’ll be sure to paper over and cover up genocide apologism if the apologist sometimes agrees with me.

          • PugJesus@lemmy.worldMEnglish
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            4 days ago

            What exactly do you think there saying is apologia? You don’t show what Noah Kulwin is responding to, nor are his responses incorrect.

            Ah yes, when performative leftists sudden become “fiscal conservatives” once the issue of resisting genocide comes up.

            Well, the issue of resisting Russian or Chinese genocide, at least.

            THEN the dollar value of lives becomes extremely important to campist cretins, for some reason.

            Nor is Brendan James wrong about the American Method of the US State Department deflecting criticism about foreign policy.

            “The US created/fueled/escalated the Ukrainian War!”

            Fucking bootlicker.

              • PugJesus@lemmy.worldMEnglish
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                4 days ago

                Again, you just made this up without evidence. This is untrue. Noah Kulwin explicitly stated Ukraine has every right to resist Putin’s illegal war. Supplying arms for Ukraine to defend itself has never been the issue.

                “I don’t think America should bankroll [resistance to genocide] in perpetuity”

                What, are you illiterate or something? Can you not read?

                jk, I know this is all in bad faith, but thanks for proving it.

                Again, that’s not what he said. He’s talking about the method the US uses for all of its foreign policy. When it comes to Ukraine, the US has fueled the conflict for its own ends. That’s a fact.

                “Resistance to genocide is fueling the conflict!”

                Yeah, no, genocide apologia isn’t allowed here, and neither are bad faith takes defending genocide.

                Weird, it’s almost like there just anti-imperialist regardless of who’s doing it or in what form.

                Until Ukraine, apparently. But sure, they managed to critique a conflict 50 years ago while running defense for an imperialist genocide happening today, totally proves they’re anti-imperialist. I bet you think supporters of the Iraq War who critique Vietnam are anti-imperialist Americans.