• amanneedsamaid@sopuli.xyz
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      Joking about those things does not make him any better or worse, it’s comedy. Ending that behavior is not an opportunity to be better.

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        I donno man, I’m no authority on morals but all things being equal I’d rather be around someone who doesn’t share their girlfriend’s sexts with their buddies.

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          Yes but this clearly wasn’t about that. If it had been he’d just screenshotted that part and focused on that. But he’s a weirdo so he screenshotted 5 years of content, anything that could remotely offend anybody, to make the maximum amount people mad.

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            I’d say it’s about that, because that is one of the things that group is about, the group this person wants to join.

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      Fuck that. Why do I need to be better? I don’t give 2 shits about virtue signalling. I don’t have to convince the world that I’m a good person, I know my own virtues and I know that I am; so I’m allowed to joke about horrific shit all the fuck I want.

      All of this performative outrage from people is silly. You’re not a bad person just because you like dark humor or shitposting.

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        You don’t have to prove anything to anyone, but you have a choice to mock / belittle other people and their issues or not to. You may get repercussions for joking about sensitive topics like these people did, but that’s not really the point.

        There are no prizes for choosing not to use dark humor beyond personally knowing you may have spared someone a little bit of suffering. If that matters to you, take it into consideration. If it doesn’t, that’s fine too… I just advise you to remember your choice, why you took it and observe how it makes you feel and what it makes you become.

        And there are all kinds of shades of gray here, too. You can joke around once in a while if you want to, but extreme attitudes tend to cause extreme consequences.

        And just to be clear, I’m not claiming to be an example of anything. I used to be the dudes Derek hung out with. Hell, i still am if you catch me on a bad day. Just sharing what I feel those decisions taught me.

        Whatever you choose, hope it’s for the best.

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        You’re not a bad person just because you like dark humor or shitposting.

        This is absolutely true.

        Why do I need to be better? I don’t give 2 shits about virtue signalling. I don’t have to convince the world that I’m a good person, I know my own virtues and I know that I am; so I’m allowed to joke about horrific shit all the fuck I want.

        This is the part that makes you a bad person no one wants to be around.

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          This is the part that makes you a bad person no one wants to be around.

          Again. Wrong. Plenty of family and friends, and a whole region of my state who come to me for advice on cnc related shit, so you missed the mark there too.

          Only people who avoid me are well…people like you, who think you need to “display” how good of a person you are. Most normal people understand humor and aren’t perpetually offended. Go touch some grass and meet some people outside for once. The majority of people on Lemmy and Reddit are not what the world would consider ‘normal’.

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            Can I ask if you are part of a group that regularly gets belittled, made fun of, or generally disrespected? Do you embrace those jokes and stereotypes that are at your expense and laugh along with them such as “That is TOTALLY us! We are crappy just like that meme says!”?

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              You are ignoring the bit where this was a private conversation. They wouldn’t need to laugh along with jokes at their expense because, in the context you are discussing, they would never even be aware that the jokes were made.

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                My question is not contextualized against the original example in this thread. You’re welcome to create your own line of questions to them if you like.

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            Do you believe someone can’t be internally motivated to encourage and uplift their peers, or at the very least feel guilt when they laugh at someone’s expense?

            Just wondering because I was like that: I told racist jokes, had plenty of similar friends, thought trans people were fooling themselves, and anyone who challenged me was pretending to be offended. I was obviously fine because I had good life.

            Then I got older, met more people, learned more stories and when my old friends made fun of the new ones, I felt off about it. Decided I would rather hang out with the people who accepted everyone, made me feel good, and were still funny, just in a different way.

            I still feel awful about the things I said and did and kinda wish I had noticed the signs sooner. While I was embraced by one group, I was being excluded from others and didn’t even know it.

            I donno man, live your life the way you want.

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            Look at this red neck hick over here drinking cheap beer who things he’s a god because people tolerate him enough to use him for his tiny island of knowledge around cnc machines.

            The only line of work he can maintain because the machine doesn’t judge him for his horrendous stench and ogre like appearance.

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            Even if we put aside the poor taste jokes and insults, sharing private conversations like what OP said his friend did is wrong and especially shitty since their purpose was to mock the other person