A danish news organization will have articles about what Danes think of tariffs. The same with a Canadian news organization, a German one, etc. Yet for some reason almost all of what American sources talk about is what citizens of other countries think.
I think the fact that American establishment publications put out more articles about what citizens of other countries think of tariffs than what Americans think of tariffs is part of the reason why Trump won.
The upper 10 percent of liberal America seems to think of themselves as citizens of the world, and seems to spend more time caring about anything other than Americans outside their hyper-specific socioeconomic niche.
The end result of this mentality is that Trump was able to make huge inroads with groups that were historically democrat’s bread and butter in 2024. Even if he was lying through his teeth, he and his team made real efforts to appeal to issues that were important for demographics.
I’m willing to bet you could find people from Hawaii to Mississippi altering their spending habits in fear of Trump’s tarrifs. Maybe the press should spend more time reporting on them.
Obviously, neither Trump nor MAGA is the answer. However there needs to be a way to talk with how out of touch so much of our establishment is without sounding like a Trump supporter.
This is a news article published in the ‘world news’ community of a worldwide Internet forum, from one of the oldest and most respected not-for-profit news agencies in the world, whom themselves published the article in their ‘world news’ section. It discusses Danish people’s overwhelmingly negative responses to the American president’s tariffs.
And you somehow make this into “ugh why to the liberal elite always only care about what the rest of the world thinks”.
Maybe, just maybe, this article wasn’t written nor shared solely for the demographic of USA voters?
Quit it with this gaslighting shit.
The AP is headquartered in NYC. They write their articles in American English. They spend a wholly disproportionate time covering US news, and the closest relationships they have are with US institutions. The author of this article has an American education at a state-managed university.
The national language of Denmark is Danish. 15 percent of the nation doesn’t even speak English.
This is 100 percent an article meant for US audiences, from a primarily US news organization.
People from Denmark also all learn English during school and have done since at least the 60s, which is why you found that only 15% of them can’t speak English. Over 50% of Danes correspond in English for their work and are confident they can read English news according to 2013 survey. The proportion of US Americans that can’t read AP News stories is honestly probably higher, with the US now at 21% illiteracy.
AP News may be primarily US-focused news source, but they are a global news organization. They sell their stories via syndication to hundreds of other news organizations and newspapers worldwide, in multiple languages, and have done for a very long time. To decide that all their articles are automatically for US audiences is just wrong.
Gaslighting is repeatedly presenting information that’s untrue to convince someone of an alternate reality. Literally not possible to do in a single message, and nothing I wrote is not factual.
I only tried to let you see how Americentrist your response to OOP was, and your subsequent response is to weaponise victimhood to dismiss any introspection. I will not waste further time.
This is the repeated part right here. If this article was primarily targeted towards Denmark, it wouldn’t be written in American English. You danced around that point. English is a second language for Denmark. An article targeted at Danes would be in Danish.
You’re a manipulative POS.
End the concept of billionaires so they can’t buy all the media.
it sort of doesn’t matter because the billionaires control the media to the point that they can set up inflation and immigration as the major issues and portray Trump as the solution to them while, in all statistical measures, the inflation and immigration were just fine under Biden and all of Trump’s related policies are godawful
Inflation and immigration were both at like 40 year highs. Also not only did a large number of billionaires favor Harris, but Harris won the majority of American households making over 200k per year.
inflation, yes, for 2021-2022 but it was in normal territory for 2023-2024. immigration, there is no rational argument for why a high rate is bad
You know the US isn’t the only country that has issues due to letting in more immigrants than they can handle right? You are stating a position that would be considered radical in virtually every western nation as if it were an established fact.
the US isn’t a country that has issues due to letting in more immigrants. the US historically has a culture based in immigration and diversity as a cultural touchstone and does not suffer from immigration in the way that a country where the national identity is tightly coupled to an ethnolinguistic group would.
Okay so I’d like you to take a few minutes to Google previous immigration waves to the US, and the strife they caused in both a cultural and economic sense.
Just because things worked out eventually doesn’t mean there weren’t extreme issues getting there.
Are you even American? This is something the vast majority of Americans know from both an educational and family history perspective.
i’m not just american, i’m the child of an immigrant to america. i’m aware of the strife because my ancestors encountered it, but again, the strife historically hasn’t been because of rational self-interest in labor forces but because of racist and moneyed forces coaxing lateral violence between communities
Danes are the sons and daughters of the greatest monster slayer to ever have maybe actually been real, Beowulf. Perhaps they shall come to slay our “Grendel”, as their forefather did for King Hrothgar, so long ago.
Pretty sure the rest of the world wishes America would start behaving like some of their forefathers right now
American ingredients in domestic made stuff is the next target.
That and breaking the dependency on American technology.
“We want Torvalds back”
Welcome to the party.
Signed, Canada
I almost bought a Microplane today, but the big “Blade made in 'murica!” stamped on it was very helpful at making me leave it at the store.
You mean a grater?
I mean a microplane. It’s also pretty much a generic term for a plane rasp with that specific style of teeth profile at this point, but this one was specifically one from them.
But yes, it’s a grater.
I expected an RC plane/drone with a name like that
The Berserkers were known for their anti-tariff policies
Trump’s term is like a ticking clock, berserker!
Look, I’m not saying it would be right.
But if some Danish Viking girls want to sail upriver, plunder and burn my city, and carry me off as American war booty, given how this fucking country is going, I won’t object.
It’d take 6 Viking women just to pick your fat ass up off the computer chair.
No worries, I’m of the rare species of Thin American. I weigh less than, statistically speaking, the average Danish woman.
Calling Danish women “Fat mammas” is not earning you any brownie points.
I’m not calling them fat, I’m just saying I’m a waif who wavers in the wind, I swear 😭 I’m very liftable, lightweight cargo
Thanks for teaching me a new word: Waif I hope you’re doing better in the UK now. You left just in time my friend.
In the UK? I’m in the US. I’m stuck here.
I’m stuck here.
until the Danish women come
Sorry, my bad, too many beers tonight
That’s the other Lemmy slut lol
Bingo, lol
I deem you a threat to Ozempic/Wegovy maker NovoNordisk - we thought we had an engine for infinite growth when we decided to monetize fat yanks, but you had to go and stay thin, didn’t ya!
Not only that, I only support universal healthcare to break the death-grip of the Danish Menace™ on our sugary-snack-gorged throats!
Did I mention that Novo also produces insulin? You’re basically a double menace, the king kindly asks you to take it down a notch… or else!
It’d take 24 Viking women just to pick your american fat ass up off the computer chair.
Which part of boycott do you not get? No Viking girls want your American ass 🤮
Damn, I was hoping that theft was still okay, just not purchase 😔
Theft is the way, but most of us sailing the high seas are no hot viking girls, I must say. Sorry.
He missed that boycott includes “boy”
fuck, how did I miss that
Boycotted. Girlcotted. Everyone cotted!
goods and services
Danish person here. Every single person in my friend group, and even my pretty apolitical parents are actively boycotting American products.
I hate to hear that. 1/3 of us voted against this.
But I understand.
I voted against this. I’m still thrilled to hear it.
Why do you care? The oligarchs never shared their profit with you anyway.
I’m in the UK, my wife mocks me daily for having a desire to understand what the US now is and to act on that.
I would say not a single friend or family member that I can tell if openly talking action.
It’s so disappointing but I’ll trudge on and hope they turn on eventually
Also in the UK and nobody I know really cares about anything so I am the only one boycotting things.
Make it hurt, Danes.
American who lives in Denmark: same and same with all my expat friends
Albuerne oppe, mine venner
Love, Canada.
My best friend is visiting Denmark currently to hang out with me for a week and she wanted mcd last night so we drove there and have never seen our mcd this empty before. We were literally the only ones there. I’m so proud of my fellow Danes.
For me, I’m mostly focused on replacing digital services as I believe they are way more important than groceries, but I shop for the star too and avoid american products more actively anyways. I dunno how big of an effect it will have in that regard, but with the tech stuff, I think that is where we can hit them the hardest and protect ourselves the most, so that is where I put in an effort. Went back to buying dvds and blurays and cut off all streaming services except for filmstriben, but that doesn’t count. I also left Meta and reddit and have deleted my youtube app and cut significantly down on my youtube “spending” if you can call it that. It feels great.
The next step will be to change my personal email and that is going to be a bigger undertaking that I don’t look forward to. Urgh. Eventually I’ll have to look into Linux too or something like that despite being a tech illiterate idiot.
We had the first discussion in my company yesterday about how our company is tied up in American tech and what we should do about it, if anything in the near future. A similar discussion has begun about the entire Danish digital system which is also mired in American tech. What do we do about that? It’ll be a very long and very slow transition and I don’t even know if the alternatives for that beast of a system exists yet.
All I can say is that I’m kind of excited about the future. Worried too. Very. But excited nonetheless. I’m a pessimistic optimist.
If you can’t switch to Linux, they won. If we are so helpless and tied up into a single system, we let them own our lives and values. Then they can fuck us over all they want, and we will have to take it up the back without complaining.
I switched to Ubuntu. Took me 2 days to adjusts. Everything I use is in a browser anyway.
I didn’t say I would never switch to Linux, just not right now. As for my company, switching to Linux or another operating system + changing emails and other subscription services isn’t something you just do over a weekend. That stuff takes time.
I have made that fast and easy changes by now because they cost me nothing and with some of the bigger changes, it takes some more thorough conversations and some research before decisions can be made. I’m not like trump. I don’t snap my fingers and make spur of the moment changes without considering the longterm effects. Especially not when it comes to my livelihood.
Keep it up. The shit bags in my country only respect one thing the dollar bill.
Will do.
But could you all please like do a general strike, or lock down cities by protesting this shit?
Geographically, you’re not asking a country to do a general strike.
You’re asking 50 different countries, each with its own culture, filled with a majority population so poor it cannot miss a day of work without risking raising its debt profile.
I’d love it if we could, but I just don’t think it’s possible.
I get you’re economically shackled already, but I just don’t believe the ‘too big/diverse to strike’-argument.
It just needs to start somewhere. And it probably evetually will now your president really fucked us all over.
I could always be wrong.
There have been disruptive strikes in our history, particularly the rail strikes in the 1800’s, but I don’t think there will be any meaningful civil disobedience unless one thing happens: Major, prolonged covid-style disruption to people’s personal convenience.
I remember in March 2020 when everyone was gung ho about staying indoors, social distancing, and stopping COVID. Then, three weeks later, you had Americans threatening to kill politicians because they couldn’t get their hair cut or go to a restaurant. Then you had people threatening to kill politicians because they had to wear a cloth across their face to go places. It’s insane, but lack of convenience will be the major precipitating factor if a strike were to happen.
So better not buy US made items not vital for survival. Leave some US made product on the shelves and lower your debt.
It does not work like that in America. We are not united but divided.
I’m not asking for all of you. Just the ones that doesn’t want this to happen.
Our neighbors would drive by and hurl excrement at us. It works in my town, but half the population is a liberal university. Just one town of many, though.
And in my rural shit hole town…I would be the only one lol
Yeah, it would be ugly in the town I grew up in.
Best we could possibly do is maybe blow the rails, the US is too big and if only one city were to do a general strike it’d mean nothing. Also I’m pretty sure said city would get glassed especially right now.
Right. End up in El Salvador
We’ve had protests like this in the past which failed miserably. Look up “occupy wall street”. Americans don’t like protesting that ends up disrupting the economic machine. We protest by disrupting the political process. It actually can work in our favor this time since trump and his cronies are the ones disrupting the economic machine. We just need other countries to keep up the pressure economically while we put political pressure on the current administration.
I wouldn’t not protest to save the economy now, since that is out the window.
I don’t know if occupy accomplished anything, but the George Floyd protests were massive.
Americans can protest. I just don’t get the late stage capitalism stockholm syndrome.
Low cost of goods is what keeps the peasants in line. It’s kind of our identity at this point.
There are general strikes happening all over the US this Saturday!
Edit for grammer :)
In that case, you’ve re-earned my respect (some of you).
Time for a raid on South Vinland.
